Overeem is just an obvious cheat, hope the UFC cut him now.

I'll subscribe to that. I'm gonna take an educated guess and say the OP didn't make a hateful thread about Barnett, Cyborg Santos, Sonnen, Carwin, and every other fighter who got caught. I bet he's looking forward to the Silva-Sonnen rematch. Let's get rid of the Reem for juicing but keep Chael because, well, he's a real honest American hero!

 

Anyone care to make the distinction that Overeem has made his entire career over the last few years on his ridiculous and obviously steroid built body? Guys like Sonnen and Leben didn't turn into silly action figure looking clowns and move up 60 lbs.

What people are said about a standard is right on though; a year out for a first positive and a lifetime ban for a second or something like that. Also, any "replacement therapy" needs to be mentioned way in advance of a test, be monitored by independent docs and should come with even more testing for roids for those guys.

 

Overeem was over 2x the limit.

Still less than Chael :deal

 

I don't buy this "everyone is doing it and just lucky not to get caught" bull****. I think people like to pretend to be "insiders" and claim that they known what people are up to when in fact they don't know **** and want to stick up for cheaters because A) they're fans of the guy who got busted or B) they have to cheat at **** to get buy and so want to rationalize it being okay.

 

Not 'everyone' in all honesty, the negative returns of all the other tests proves that.

But I bet it's more than a very select few.

 

On that note,I wonder what percentage of East German athletes tested positive for steroids.

 

That's exactly it. When doctors have you on Testosterone Replacement Therapy there is no way they will let you get to double the limit. Chael was one point over, not 30 points. Big difference and obviously reem was actual "juicing" not injecting small healthy amounts.

 

There's a lot more steroid users going around than we know. There's alot of ways to pass tests.

 

it could be more his body fat has dropped over the last few years