Dempsey's take on the non-fight with Wills

It depends on what constitutes "ducking".
People throw the word around all the time.

 

That's interesting, and I get that. For many, though, me included, Dempsey squandered his championship years (and later he would list this too among his regrets --that he didn't defend the title more often). Even if he chose to defend against light-skinned light heavies and Harry Greb's whipped leftovers, he should have at least done it more often.

I think he rapidly declined as a fighter after Willard, though there was a window where he was a P4P beast and a giant killer.

 

P4P Greb was better, but really H2H? Come on this would have been a mismatch for Greb, he gets destroyed in this one. Same as Wills. I get what people are trying to say about him, yet I reguarly see guys here not only outside the top 10 but also top 15 of all time which is ludicrous. These guys have no idea what they're talking about, which is why they fail to appreciate the skills of the man.

In my opinion having him outside the top 5 is a pretty big stretch, and I can see as good a case for him to be No. 1 as anyone.

 

Just as wine, women and song ruined many, many fighters careers, La Dolce Vita did the same for Jack Dempsey's legacy as a H2H heavyweight champion. After his young arduous life out of Colorado, fighting in bars for meals, traveling underneath trains
going from town to town, literally a hobo is it any wonder that once Dempsey won the title in 1919, became very wealthy under Jack Kearns and Tex Rickard, decided that to hell with it...The joys of silent screen flappers, bedding down hot starlets was too strong a magnet for Dempsey to overcome, and led to his three year absence from the ring,and when he did come back from "La Dolce Vita", the tiger that was once Jack Dempsey had left him...Truly who can blame him ? Yes his legacy was damaged by his
braintrust's choice of opponents, or lack of the top opponents, but pleasure of the moment came first...Whatever, I still regard the very best Dempsey who flattened 25 fighters in the first round , as an earlier and bigger edition of the later Roberto Duran
in his fiery style, swiftness and unparalleled toughness in a heavyweight, at his best...
Not for nothing was he lauded so highly by those who saw him at his best...

 

Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together could tell it was a off the cuff joke mocking the superlatives Burt bestows on Dempsey as soon as he enters any such thread. Granted a tad crass but this is a boxing forum where grown men congregate, banter like this is pretty tame in male environments, so I'd guess no one crying on here has set foot in a boxing gym or had a real job for that matter

And Burt's fine when dishing out the banter, but not with receiving it. Many on here have described him as condescending, rude and arrogant at 1 time or another. Yet often plays the very sensitive victim himself

As for the threats from the tough men internet warriors I don't really believe any of you can fight upto the standard of say some of the women boxers I've worked with, prove me wrong

LUFC no one in your part of the world refers to an elderly gentleman as 'sir' and if you did they'd look at you strangely. As for an apology, behave yourself lad, apologising for a joke on the interwebz that people actually laugh, ok :nut

 

Burt often denigrates and dismisses our era, we are not even men anymore, according to Burt. This is often unprovoked.

He slates our generation at every opportunity. And when his generation is called into question, we are met with a frothing at the mouth response labelling us all reverse racists and no-nothings.

Should an attack be thrown on him, an accusation of bias for example, then he turns into the victim. And threatens to leave like a prima donna, knowing that the rim licking brigade will be up his ass in 10 seconds flat proclaiming him a demi god and begging him to stay.

 

Nah, he wasn't a paper champ, not by any stretch. I -think- that he ducked both. I'm convinced that he avoided both.

And Dempsey himself admitted drawing the color line during his reign ---and regretted it.

 

to PP,one last time...Lest we forget...
On April 6,2012 on this thread when I have not posted or participated in this subject,
from out of NOWHERE you posted this endearing term about me...
"Burt enters the thread WANKING HIS 90 YO WINKLED ****, etc. Would you like it SIR
if some poster spouted this filthy remark to your dad or your grandfather ? Do you know what I felt reading this offensive remark,from you that was unprovoked ? Do you know how it feels to reach my age seeing my pals biting the dust around me ? Are you so insensitive or just plain crass... Would you have said it to your senior relatives or friends
or is it because 3000 miles seperate us ?
I came from "the greatest generation", and these epithets directed without cause
to any older man was indeed HITTING BELOW THE BELT, and would be dealt with
correctly...
P.S. I hope your older loved ones are shown more respect ....

 

I don't remember it ever being much different but do admit as of late it has gotten a bit worse ... however, there are still a lot of guys , many of whom I battle with, who are very knowledgable and let's face it ,,, this board gets far and away the most activity of any other and for a dying sport we have to take the god with the annoying ...

 

You write this as if you can't separate apples from oranges ... nice embarrassing speech ... go work out your problems with your parents ... :nut