Styles make fights:Hopkins vs. Dawson 2

Kool is right, Hopkins is not going to stay in the fight and get handed a beating.

If survival mode gets to strenuous for Hopkins, he'll find a way to bail, its in his character, its Bernard Hopkins!

 

Well, I was not about to go at any members including the biggest Hopkins' haters but this has gone too far and has gone too far and we are only on April the 9th, 19 days to go. Primadonna Kool, hatesrats and Divac have gone too far just like Chad Dawson, that once short spoken, humble and shy guy. Now, Dawson can see through Hopkins and B'Nard is distressed cause he has no way out just cause he's quiet, cause he knows he's gonna get whooped or try another way out... This is the biggest piece of **** I have ever heard in this Forum. I'm not calling names to members but I'm gonna call Dawson a stupid guy cause he knows B'Nard is not a bit afraid or reluctant to fight him, he just didn't want to be slammed a la MMA style again against a nervous guy who explodes inside six minutes. But since this is what is in stake, both men manhood and boxing IQ, let's see what happens. I want to see Chad running across the ring to finish B'Nard inside six rounds like he says and his fans say... If Chad plays safe and looks to play chess matches and counter, lead with jabs and str8 lefts only like we know it's his style, win on ring generalship and aggressiveness only, I can very well say, all you Dawson supporters posts are as meaningful as what floats in the bottom of Dawson's toilet when he thinks what he is into - did the wrong thing in the first fight, talked too much b4 the rematch and may be made absolutely like a clown in the fight for not backing up any of what has been said. Period.

 

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I have no issue with people saying Dawson will win, but to say Hopkins is scared is just bull****. He wouldn't be there if he didn't want to be.

 

Hopkins is a smart man, and he will probably quit on his stool..? Than give his critics and haters the satisfaction of seeing him beaten down. But really if you think about it, all great champions warriors, go out on there shields..."There's nothing wrong with it"..? Because that's the closet thing to a hero they will ever be.

Its a brave warrior act, like when Mike Tyson..? Knew it was up against him vs Lennox Lewis. Mike Tyson didn't play act or look for a way out of the fight.

He simply stayed in there until the end, like a real man and warrior. Until the end. Roy Jones did the same up against Joe Calzaghe, he stayed a honest man and fighter/warrior until the bitter end..? But then you look at how Bernard Hopkins fought Joe Calzaghe, and how he started to act and spoil and ruin the fight as the rounds went on..?

I am sorry but i question how great a champion and fighter he really is. "I think inside of him there is a *****"

I honestly don't think Bernard Hopkins, is that great of champion to defend his titles with that much honour. Champions don't play act and look for a way out of a fight..? Champions don't win fights in there back.

 

Why you upset coz you got an Audely harrison Avatar atsch

You just registered yourself as a man who dont know **** about baaxin!

This is what Joe Calzaghe says about Bernard Hopkins:-

"He is very

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. It wasn't pretty, but I won the fight."

Awkward and clever :think, thats some crafty **** dont you think?

how the **** else can a fighter who aint got the physical tools be able to win rounds, and dominate high class operaters if he aint mastered the craft of boxing?

Use your brain boi

Fair enough, I said he was a KO artist to get you to come here and call bull**** for me to agree with you for you to understand that there is a common ground and for you to accept your schooling.

Its the art of pwnage. Anyway read on.

27 KO wins in 39 fights, thats almost 70% KO ratio. Regardless, the point I was making, BHop was an aggressive fighter back in the day, as his physical attributes declined he had to change his style and since he mastered the craft he chose to do what he does best. Frustrate his opposition.

Ok son.

Thats you opinion.

I think if you watch Hopkins fight a tall southpaw in Keith Holmes, it might change your opinion.

However, Hopkins vs Dawson II should be enough to make fan boys like you realise that a younger Hopkins would have had more success against Dawson.

Also Bull**** number II you come up with, you just said Hopkins was getting stopped up against Chad Dawson? in that 5 minute fight, Dawson didnt do jack. Tell me what Dawson did other than the rugby tackle?

Hopkins has only clearly lost once, and that is against RJJ. Other than that he has been ahead on many judges scorecards in all his losses.

Eubank's SMW reign. We still had champions in Toney, Nunn and RJJ lurking around. And Eubank never fought any of them

I aint saying Eubank ducked em, no. But I am saying Eubank had rivals he didnt step in the ring with, Fact.

Hopkins MW reign, Hopkins had no rival he didnt step in the ring with. Earlier I had a debate and the fanboy said he had a rival in Felix Sturm. Just goes to show Hopkins cleared out the division and left no stone unturned. Fought until he was given a controversial defeat by Taylor at age 40. And held all 4 titles.

Eubank wasnt undisputed champ, Hopkins was. Go thru the history son.

You think the oscar de la hoya was a good win

you dont noe **** about baaxin

Hopkins KO over Glen Johnson was better than that.

And U think Felix Trinidad 1 dimensional, you dont noe **** about baaxin man.

Another bull**** claim you made.

You just said Eubank, Benn and Toney have better reign at MW than Hops

atsch get the **** outta here madonna

Hopkins was 40 at that time, and post me your scorecard lets get into the Taylor fights then.

Calzaghe chickened out of a rematch

RJJ beat Hopkins clearly, no one else didnt.

You are a scouser boi.

Next time you get into a fist fight, be a honest lad and fight instead of being a crafty guy and win by any means neccessary.

When you fight, do what you can to win. Just some advice.

I dont care whether he gangsta or not.

He a real dude, he is 47 years old and still giving entertaining fights, Eubank, Benn Calzaghe all left the sport and ran off.

He does what he needs to win. And I aint a fan of some things he does, but it works for him, as long as he gives a rematch i aint complaining.

 

Deep down, YOU know Bernard Hopkins cannot beat Chad Dawson. You could be 100 of miles away from me right about now..? But i see the complete confusion and lack of confident in your post. Deep down you know Chad Dawson is going to win..? logically thats what your brain is thinking, but instinctively and emotionally you want Bernard Hopkins to win.

I totally agree with you in saying..? This has gone to far. People have gone too far with Bernard Hopkins ability, physically, technically and mentally. If any other boxer was to refuse a stare down, stay completely quiet during press conferences, they would be labelled as worried and confused.

But when Bernard Hopkins does it..? Its labelled as some kind of jedi mind trick.

Bernard Hopkins is worried, I wouldn't say he is afraid. But he knows the time for his long ass speeches, about how he ****ing marched in the civil rights movement..? and fought with the black panthers, IS not what the real boxing fans want to here.

People are sick and tired of his same old ****.

Look at the state of the mong here...

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1. No. How could you possibly say "Hopkins actually landed more punches on him?" I would recommend re-watching the fight.

2. The way Hopkins maneuvered around the ring was not a good example of ring generalship to me. He only controlled when the action was happening by lunging in and throwing in the clinch, whereas Dawson was pumping his jab and throwing punches routinely throughout. Hopkins bounced off the turnbuckles and ran to avoid Dawson getting him into the corner. As more than two rounds pass, the 47 year old won't be quite so apt at getting out of the corner.

3. The only times I thought Dawson was getting frustrated were in the clinches when Hopkins was illegally pressing down on the back of his neck/upper back. Because of this, Dawson waited for him to foul again, and win he did, showed him that he wasn't going to sit back and let that happen. He fouled him back and Hopkins' 47 year old body couldn't withstand a 3 foot fall which didn't even land on his shoulder.

I mean, it's all opinion and how we each see things, but we will get an answer on April 28th... Unless the same thing happens as the first time, in which case, we see a boring 6 minutes of Dawson jabbing, Hopkins holding, and the Dawson/Hopkins mutual body slam foul.

 

You ****ing complete idiot.

Bernard Hopkins middleweight reign is overrated. His two best wins where no matter what you say..? Oscar De La hoya..? he was a fat welterweight. And its common knowlege that Felix Trinidad was a one demensional fighter.

"YOU KNOW THIS"

"And these are the two fights which made his career, these are his two best wins..? But technically they are good wins, not great. When fighters like Nigel Benn was facing, real middleweight killers like G-man, Iran Barkley.......Chris Eubank was facing Nigel Benn & Michael Watson, James Toney facing immense fighters like Michael Nunn.

Where the **** was Bernard Hopkins during this era, who the **** was he facing........"He was facing complete and utter no marks"....it was the reason why he was getting paid next to nothing, because the division was average back when he took his opportunity.

And i don't understand why you brought up Bernard Hopkins age..? in reference to Calzaghe, Eubank and Benn retiring..? Fighters retire.

Bernard Hopkins did not make them retire..? Bernard Hopkins did not make Nigel Benn retire, or Chris Eubank retire........... You ****ing idiot.

He was too busy facing fat welterweights, and Robert Allen 15 times.

The bottom line is..? Bernard Hopkins is not beating Chad Dawson, its over.

 

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You still upset because of your Audely Harrison avatar bro?

Just go to UserCP and change it then man. But you cant change ur name, you are stuck with Madonna now, just live with that, but the avatar can be changed.

When I get time, I will make a youtube video for you, showing a tutorial with Gorrilla producation proportions of editing skills, and direction and productions of Hollywood standards, with oscar winning performances.

That video can show you how to change your avatar from Audley Harrison to a Bernard Hopkins one. Just for you man, I got respect for scousers.

Bernard Hopkins stepped in the ring with every rival :deal during his Middleweight reign.

What else can you ask for Hopkins to do?

Answer that question.

Do you think Hopkins should have fought WBO champ Felix Sturm, or should he have fought WBO champ Mendoza . or Maybe he should have fought WBO champ Harry simon:rofl

It dont matter, Hopkins stepped into the ring with every MW rival. Win lose or draw.

Hoya was bloated, I agree, the man was WBO champ though and Hopkins wanted to make big money of Hoya's name, he succeeded.

Trinidad was supposed to destroy old man 36 year old BHop, but failed and over night all of a sudden is labelled one dimensional.

He wasnt one dimensional until BHop made him look one dimensional man.

You think him beating Jean Pascal aint better than the Hoya win.
He also beat Pavlik, Tarver, Wright, Calzaghe, Glen Johnson, aint those wins better than the Hoya win.

Come one man.

He also KO hoya, no one else has done that. (Pacqiuao has, he RTD him though)

Ok I dont even think Hoya is a good win, it was a decent win.

But if you want to think it was a good win, go ahead.

You dont noe **** about baaxin!

Benn beat G Man and Barkley at SMW, not MW.

Also lets look into Nigel Benn.

Did Nigel Benn clear out the MW division? NO
Did Hopkins? YES

Did Nigel Benn become undisputed MW champ? NO
Did Hopkins? YES

We can go on, but Hopkins reign > Benn's reign.
If you think otherwise, you dont know **** about baaaaaxin!

Ok I think I understand what you are trying to say.

You are trying to say:-

Eubanks, Benns, and Toney's MW/SMW era was better than Hopkins.

I agree, but why you attacking Hopkins for that. Is it Hopkins fault he beat the **** outta every MW put in front of him bar RJJ. Come off it man.

Hopkins was upcoming, he fought RJJ in 1993 and lost, He also lost his first fight against mansell or something. BHop didnt have what Eubank, Benn had. Eubank and Benn had personality that would sell, Hopkins still was making a name for himself.

Hopkins can retire today and be still considered greater than Eubank, Benn and Calzaghe.

Hopkins retire today, he would be considered greater than RJJ and Toney. And Hagler even.

But still BHop still in the game, making fights, and stepping in the ring with dangerous opponents such as Pascal and Dawson. That alone deserves respect.

Please show where I said that:

And when you realise I never said that, say this to yourself:-

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He fought Allen 3 times, and u think it was 15 times, damn man.

Hopkins fought every worthy MW available, bring me one MW he should have fought?

You wont be able to succeed man.

Fair comment.

Chad Dawson is heavily favourite, I will be honest I think BHop has to have his gameplan spot on if he even wants a chance of winning.

This is the biggest opponent Hopkins has ever been in the ring with. Dawson is dangerous,

And since you agree, you should respect Hopkins for stepping in between the ropes against a dangerous opponent when he is past his physical best.

Most boxers, dont do what BHop does. I still respect Toney for stepping in the ring with Lebedev. Toney is shot and physically a mess, and has very little chance but still has the courage to step in the ring. These are men I call true fighters. You see Calzaghe, the man ran away from a Froch, Hopkins II, Dawson, Tarver ......fights with them, he ran away to sniff coke and dance on BBC tv.

Major difference.

 

common Bernard is old its over he will not beat Dawson, i think this fight will end by DQ - TKO or another crying Hopskins Show.

I Respect hopskins he is one of the best Boxer ever no doubt, but he has past his prime long time.

Dawson will win .....

 

Hopkins has lasted a long time been a good champ!!! I think Dawson has ability to take his place as great LH champ!! Hopkins In his prime got beat by Sergio Mercando ,and barely beat a jaded Lupe Aquino in 12 who Verno Phillips KOD in 7. He just doesnt compare to Hagler, Monzon,Tiger,Leonard!!:bbb

 

Another man who:-

Dont know **** about baaxin!

 

This is Bernard Hopkins last fight.

: I am going to bed, i will continue this tomorrow.

 

I dont see Hopkins quitting on his stool unless the excuse afterward was that he had an injury.


And for the record I see nothing wrong with Hopkins quitting on his stool if he's taken enough punishment and its evident he does'nt have a chance in the fight.
To remain on your stool at that point I dont consider cowardice, I think its smart.

However I dont see Hopkins quitting and giving Dawson the credit.
If Hopkins quits, he'll have an excuse of an injury of some kind.

Thats just how Hopkins operates. He's going to be enticing Dawson to lose his cool that goes without saying, if that does'nt work, you watch Hopkins try to bail.

He even tried to bail in his rematch with Roy Jones, a fight Hopkins was winning handily. Hopkins punched himself out, was tired, Jones tapped him behind the head, and Hopkins took it like he'd been shot. He was even looking for the ref to disqualify Jones while he was down and crying. nut:nut
.....Jones meanwhile was in the neutral corner laughing about it as he knew Bernard was faking it.


Btw, I'm just calling it like I see it. If by some miracle Hopkins properly beats Dawson, I'll be the first on this board in praise of that accomplishment and give Hopkins his proper credit.
For the life of me I just dont see that happening however.