How I would prepare Cotto to fight Mayweather. (Technical thread)

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  1. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So you'd have him fight like a caveman? Wonderful. (Have you not cottoned on; everyone here thinks your an idiot...)

    Thankyou, I appreciate it.
     
  2. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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  3. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    **** poster.
     
  4. Ricky42791

    Ricky42791 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I cant say anything that hasn't already been said, Great thread I love it. This is what I come to esb hoping to find not pacquiao mayweather bs drama that has turned in to more of a soap opera than anything. I always pictured cotto to be the aggressor though and Floyd physically stronger than cotto seems questionable I love your game plan i'll have to send you my sparring videos and have you draw up a game plan for me in my amateur bouts!
     
  5. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Cotto can't win trying to outbox Floyd. That allows Floyd to get into his comfort zone. That's a guaranteed loss. I don't think trying to outjab him either will work. Floyd has a fantastic jab, and that with his timing and speed advantage also guarantees a loss. I think Cotto's best chance to win is Floyd underestimating Cotto and not respecting him to his fullest. Cotto, in my opinion, would be best served making this an ugly, rough fight. The more distance, the better FLoyd's chance to win. Keeping Floyd out of his rythm and comfort zone, clearly easier said then done, is the key to victory.

    Yes, Cotto needs to jab. ANd good thing he has a good one. But he can't get caught in a jabbing contest. Jab, then attack. Jab, then attack. Floyd might be stronger, but Cotto's no slouch either. This isn't a fight vs. a LW. FLoyd WILL notice a difference, and should adjust according. It's then where Cotto needs to do his damage. Go for the body with #4. Double it up. Cotto has to believe in himself and be willing to go out on his shield trying to make this rough. Floyd's penchant for going into the corner or against the rope is also when Cotto needs to go in full force. No single shots. Every punch MUST be followed by another one, two or three. But ultimately, Cotto needs to remember his bread and butter, his left to the body, and his left hook. Two punches he's abandoned years ago. But ALWAYS after a jab and two, three, four punch combo. ANy single shots will be retaliated with sharper precision by Floyd, and ultimately remove any confidence and momentum Cotto has brought, allowing floyd to coast to a win or late stoppage.
     
  6. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Cotto was prime at 140 when he KOed everything he touched.

    If he could fight Mayweather at any weight, eg 220, what would be his ideal fighting weight? Writer is arguing that 152 is a better weight for Cotto, strength vs endurance.

    It is an opinion, only Cotto and his camp could possibly know for certain.
     
  7. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    That's the point,, he's less mobile. And who the **** are you callin a *****?

    What happens if Floyd gets the better of Cotto on the inside with his shell? What are you going to tell Cotto? "Well, you just don't have it in your repertoire. Might as well give up, rules are you can't box with a boxer at all whatsoever. Let's not try anything new, despite the fact that small changes go a long way. Oh well." I'd hate to have you in my camp if all you're going to do is whip out a basic, predictable plan A and then have nothing down the stretch to help.

    If it were down to simply "hit him anywhere you can", someone would have beaten Floyd decisively already.
     
  8. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've not suggested out Boxing him; that'd be suicidal. More sort of; using Boxing as a base to build offence off of. Use Boxing to occupy Mayweather, rather than take the Pejevan approach and walk towards him with a sign on Cotto's head saying 'hit me'

    We shall see Sir, I may be well off; at which point some bellend will bump this thread :lol:
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    I agree. My post wasn't to counter anything you said, more so just to add my 2 cents.

    Of course, to be expected. :smoke But those pricks offer nothing of their own.
     
  10. bballchump11

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    Ya if I was Floyd, I'd want Cotto to come at me and "try to hit everything he sees".

    Cotto has to give Floyd different looks throughout the fight and use his jab with purpose. Jab his way in, don't just walk in and throw like an idiot
     
  11. northstar

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    I think many boxing fans are seriously underestimating cotto's boxing brain. Although he has been hurt and ko'd he has never (even at his technical worst against pacquiao) been completely outclassed technically. I favor mayweather to win, but if cotto doesn't show serious signs of wear and tear, this should be a very competitive fight. Diaz's presence is also a big plus.
     
  12. Leon

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    We have to consider who he has been fighting. The best names on his resume as of now aren't technicians known for brilliant ring IQs.

    What keeps this fighting interesting is it'll answer how well Floyd can cut off a ring and handle lateral movement. Cotto(e) stylistically isn't the the type that's tricky for Floyd. People are banking lot on Cotto(e)'s movement holding weight and all the badAZZ **** his trainer says to the media throughout training camp.

    Cotto(e)'s trainer has convinced people that he has an effective strategy, and Cotto(e) has convinced some people that he can execute that strategy.
     
  13. 6uanaco

    6uanaco GUANACO DA KING Full Member

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    IDK if its just me but i think that when Cotto throws to the body, which in my opinion he should do often, he should throw it with deadly intentions. Even if its to the arms or shoulder but make that ****in punch hurt.

    I think that at times Mayweather will be backed up like he did against Ortiz and this is the time that Cotto should throw hard. And mix it up with upppercuts like he did to Clottey when he was against the ropes. Uppercuts are rarely used by these boxers nowadays, thank the lord for Marquez lol
     
  14. Primadonna Kool

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    "Work on getting in position, and then going to the body hard.............Mayweather has not really got the best jab..? he's not really constant with it..? like Larry Holmes or Lennox Lewis. Sometimes Mayweather throws it, sometimes he does'nt, and even when he does throw it..? Its never really a double jab and there's always time inbetween his jabs. I have noticed the way, some fighters when they come up against Floyd Mayweather don't throw there jabs..? in fear of his counter straight right hand, or some fighters wait until he has finish throwing, and don't really......."Punch with him".

    These are all simple mistakes, that could make a big difference.

    Oscar De La Hoya probably would of won his fight against Mayweather if he would of thrown his jab more, when he did throw it..? Oscar Del La Hoya was giving Floyd Mayweather problems.

    But for some unknown reason..? which showed to me that Oscar De La Hoya was not physically on his way out..? But mentally starting to become hesistant and SHOT.

    Miguel Cotto has a stiff Jab, and very good stiff jab. He's got to use it like a ram, as he gets into position on Floyd Mayweather. And then unload shots to the body.

    Its quite simple but affective.

    What you need to pressure Floyd Mayweather is a strong pair of legs and core, look how fast Ricky Hatton got into range on Floyd Mayweather. But Ricky Hatton kind of underrated Floyd Mayweathers physical strength up close, therefore he was not able to body snatch him like he was so used to doing with all his other oponents....."But he still had success"

    Miguel Cotto for me is physically stronger and more imposing than Ricky Hatton, and he has decent movement/agility. I don't think this is the only way Miguel Cotto can fight Floyd Mayweather..? But i think it is the most violent way, and Miguel Cotto deep down intrinsically is a violent sadistic fighter.

    "He is going to go to the body, and as the rounds increase bring it up top.........break him down"
     
  15. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    big no no he uses his arms, elbows, and shoulders as timing mechanisms

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    his uncle is always hitting his right elbow with the pads to set off counter right uppercuts