? about Irish travelers and boxing

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  1. moorser

    moorser Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here is a good thread on traveller boxers .

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351763
     
  2. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    For those saying Billy Joe Saunders is and Irish Traveler, he is a Romany Gypsy.

    And for the thread starter, Big Fat Gypsy Wedding is fairly inaccurate, watch it for entertainment rather than to learn about traveler life.
     
  3. Johnny Coyle

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    They're all fighters..... Most of em know how to fight because they have to as kids.. They dont turn pro coz i dont think they're intrested half of em.. they just get married and keep the fighting as a tradtion... Its not like they are short on money either most of em...

    Theres a film/documentery called 'knuckle' you should watch..
     
  4. Del Boy

    Del Boy R.I.P Darren Sutherland Full Member

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    Rathkeale in Limerick?
     
  5. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    You looked like a handy fighter yourself Johnny when you twatted Dan Rooney's brother on camera after the infamous "**** any man" interview with Paddy Doherty back in '90.
     
  6. Barlivia

    Barlivia War Froch Full Member

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    Yea I'm from kilmallock direction. Done a nice bit of work in rathkeale down thru the years. Kilmallock has it's fair share of em too. You from rathkeale side?
     
  7. Del Boy

    Del Boy R.I.P Darren Sutherland Full Member

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    No bud im over in Raheen in west limerick, drive through Rathkeale every week through, used to box with a few guys from there as well
     
  8. dempseys right

    dempseys right Active Member Full Member

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    An irish traveler, tinker, knacker, whatever you refer to them as are the decendants of disposesed people going back to cromwell etc, forced of their property by the crown, many went to u.s. australia, canada,n/zealand etc, Gypsies, romanys, originate in what was then india, now afganistan, they were the indian army of the day, who battled the mongoles, when a 2 generation war ended some traveled on into europe, a few ended in uk.
     
  9. moorser

    moorser Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    good few startin turn pro as they are more sttled also they are acheiving great things in the am game

    pro ye have ...IRISH TRAVELLERS

    ANDY LEE- limerick
    willie casey-limerick
    jj mcdonagh-mullingar
    paddy mcdonagh-mullingar
    michael sweeney-mayo
    simon o'donnell-galway/london
    john o'donnell-galway/london
    tyson fury-manchester
    martin ward- newcastle

    very decent amatuer fighters who would make good pros are

    joe ward-mullingar-euro senior gold,world youth gold etc
    michael o'reilly-portlaoise-euro youth silver(robbed of gold)
    john joe joyce-mullingar-2008 irish olympian
    michael mcdonagh-dublin-euro cadet gold-2 time irish senior champ
    davey oliver joyce-mullingar-multiple irish senior champ
    christy joyce-mullingar-talented irish youth prospect
    davey joe joyce-mullingar-world youth bronze meadlist
    john joe nevin-mullingar-08/12 irish olympian/2 time senior world bronze
    martin ward-london-aba champ/english international
     
  10. dannyboy147

    dannyboy147 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not you with more shite again!! You reckon Mayweather used Phil Fury as a sparring partner?!!!!:bart
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I'm still a bit confused on this whole traveler business.

    If they aren't true (Roma) gypsies and are supposedly of Irish ethnic origin...then why call them gypsies or pikeys or any other term? Why bother even differentiate between "Irish" and "Irish traveler" at all?

    Would it be technically wrong to just call Tyson Fury or Andy Lee plain old "Irish" without qualifying it? :huh

    OK fine there's a history there of them splintering off from society and going the itinerant way, but at the end of the day...their ancestors were as Irish as everybody else in Ireland. So...they're all just Irish. Not a separate ethnic group, really. Right? :?
     
  12. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Correct. They're Irish travelers and part of the Irish diaspora.
     
  13. moorser

    moorser Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yes ib but for over 800 years they have lived in wagons/trailers travelling around ireland and more recently britain also doing buisness such as fix tin items hence the name tinker or irish traveller
     
  14. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    Is Joe "The Hulk" Joyce a celebrity over in Ireland?
     
  15. moorser

    moorser Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    more infamous...more known for the joe ward lad bein his grandson these days