Marquez: Everyone knows I won all three fights against Pacquiao

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  1. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Judges have also said Williams beat Lara...and that Chavez drew with Whitaker, and that Tito beat Oscar...and that Lewis-Holyfield 1 was a draw...hell they had Lopez ahead against Salido in their rematch. Ect, ect...
     
  2. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bigger sample size with Marquez and Pac. The bigger the sample size the more accurate one's assessment should be. 3 fights that are similar in their ebb and flow. 36 rounds of tit-for-tat action in which Pacquiao ultimately gets the nod (usually in the championship rounds) suggests that although competitive, there is something lacking in JMM's style to overcome Pac's activity and more proactive aggression...in which the judges tend to favor. Lemme put it this way, if a round is close...judges tend to score it for the more aggressive guy. That's the story of this trilogy...and the data and the judges's scorecards backs it up.
     
  3. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    That the judges prefer seeing Manny come out as the winner? Absolutely.

    However, ill go with what the majority of the boxing world believes. :good
     
  4. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :lol::lol::rofl:rofl:patsch
     
  5. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    I have the first 2 fights for Pac. He won by a point in those fights. No matter how you cut it, those fights were close. Only bitter fans will call any of the 3 fights are robbery.

    The 3rd fight, I had it a draw. JMM gave away most of the championship rounds by being passive.
     
  6. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    All DRAW at best:deal
     
  7. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, when the outcome is in doubt judges tends to prefer the guy who takes more risk, someone who is more proactive. That Marquez's offense is so reliant on Pac coming to him actually hurts him in that regard. And the general concensus here is that all three fights were close in that the outcome was in doubt. I'm not gonna go as far and say this is a fact with judges, but it is a running trend, ie Hoya/Trinidad is one example. Yes that is the underlying theme with Marquez/Pac....he doesn't do nearly enough when he has to put his foot forward. Flashy counters midrounds don't win you rounds later on in the fight.
     
  8. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    ..and who is the bigger draw..dont forget that one. :deal

    The general concensus is that JMM won at least 2 very close fights (2 and 3)
     
  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I had it 2-0-1 for Pac

    Marquez definitely earned my respect. Bigtime. I underestimated him.
     
  10. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    you learned so far how to stay away from the floor ....
    you need to learn also how to throw more punches than PAC
    I guess in the sixth fight you may be successful.
     
  11. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    that is the general consensus among Marquez' fans!
     
  12. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    More like he needs to learn how to beat Arums judges...He already figured out the beating Pacquiao part. :deal
     
  13. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Fixed.
     
  14. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    I scored all 3 fights for Pacquiao.
     
  15. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Marquez won the first and the third fight.

    Depending on how you score round 1 of their 2nd fight, pacquiao won that one or atleast has a case.