If 14 year old Tony Ayala had sparred with Duran instead of Cuevas....

laxpdx,

Can someone come up with who in their right mind, would allow a young teenage kid
to fight older fighters.

Not any United States Amateur Official that I know of.

No National Golden Gloves supervisor, and definitely not any National A.A.U. official.

And clearly no National Junior Olympic Boxing coach.

Having talent (ie; Tony Ayala Jr.) is one thing, but anything like allowing these supposed
sparring sessions is 'abnormal behavior' for a parent or a boxing coach.

 

So have i. Ive done it myself. But we're talking a whole different level here:good

 

Junior should have been exterminated like a pitbull too.

 

The old man tried to turn his sons into something he was never capable of being :!:

 

Look, Boxing has enough image problems without people raking over Ayala's career. He is a total scumbag, a nasty violent ****** who doesn't deserve any mention at all in a respected forum like this. I feel guilty just making this post but something needs to be said.
nononononono

 

So True,,,,,,,,

He was a 'bad seed'
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As far as that supposed 'sparring session'.
No one has come up without an exact or approximate date,
other than the Summer of 1977 and in San Antonio somewhere.

We can confirm that Pipino Cuevas was in Los Angeles from
June 28, 1977 thru August 10, 1977.

He had his training camp set up in Los Angeles for the WBA Title fight
versus Clyde Gray at 'The Olympic' on Saturday, August 6th.

Pipino went back to Mexico City after that bout, and participated in
a victory celebration on Saturday, August 13th.

He was in 'celebrity mode' for most of August.

And was 'on vacation' until the end of September.

First week of October, set up training camp in Mexico City for his
scheduled November bout versus Angel Espada.

On the other hand,,,,Tony Ayala Jr. was in Lincoln, Nebraska
from June 15 thru June 22 for the National Junior Olympics.

The 'Time Window' for this supposed sparring session does not line up.

 

Regardless of what happened, the footage tells the ztory: Ayala was poor.

 

You do know Roberto Duran flattened a teenage amateur in sparring right?

 

Yes,,,,,,,,,,,and beat up a horse also.........

 

LOL at this piece of **** thread running 10 pages.

**** I recall a thread on Les Darcy beating up Fred Fulton that earnt huge derision in some quarters because of a lack of reported written accounts of the session although there were numerous first hand verbal accounts.

Yet the Ayala-Cuevas sparring session,even though it happened realtively recently yet suffers the same factual problems and a lack of credible first hand accounts is still accorded creedence to this day.

But as the Fleaman says the proof is in the pudding. The tubby,punch telegraphing, stationary headed,**** weak defensively Ayala who fought a carefully selected batch of spuds,bums and has beens is there on film for all to see.

Really it's a nonsense that this **** still gets attention at all these days.

Why not big up Jo el Scott or James Butler while were at it?

 

Ok, so you don't believe this Duran one (sparring) either?

 

Which is worse.. this thread actually being made and going on this long(considering a teenager ever having a chance against a primed Duran).. or... people actually thinking he has a chance.... I guess B, but both are pretty atrocious.

 

ach, i don't think ayala was THAT bad a fighter.Good enough offensively to hang around the top ten for years and beat other so-so contenders that matched up poorly with him like Gregory, Larocca(maybe), Herrera etc, but yeah not good enough to be a slightly creepy fixation for boxing fans as some sort of denied uber-prospect 25-30 years after his prime.

Then again some of the pro ayala guys are just outright trolls like Rooster who people always bite with.He's just taking the **** and lax is probably a ****** or extreme sexual deviant in real life.