Who wins majority of the time, outside fighter vs inside fighter?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by king khan, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. king khan

    king khan Boxing Junkie banned

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2012
    Messages:
    10,733
    Likes Received:
    0
    Both guys are same/similar physical/athletic attributes, and intangibles: speed, power, stamina, chin, experience. . .

    Which one prevails most of the time? Longer arms will generate more leverage, and power on straight punches from the outside, and shorter arms will enable hooks to be turned over quicker on the inside. .

    Could you guys cite me some examples from history?

    I know you got Ali/Frazier. . . I would say Hearns/Hagler, but Hearns threw the damn jab, and "fighting off the back foot" out the damn window! ANd we saw Hagler's shorter arms, and more squat, compact frame prevailed. . Not to mention, well, it's HAGLER!

    Then you got Sugar Ray Leonard/Hagler. . .

    Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam vs. Avtandil Khurtsidze (this is a GEM!) It's on youtube, so I suggest you guys watching it if you haven't seen it!
     
  2. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2010
    Messages:
    40,234
    Likes Received:
    13
    Robinson Lamotta
     
  3. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2010
    Messages:
    40,234
    Likes Received:
    13
    the sport is called boxing, so I'm going with the boxer
     
  4. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2011
    Messages:
    11,933
    Likes Received:
    10
  5. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2006
    Messages:
    20,449
    Likes Received:
    51
    The guy on the outside.
     
  6. king khan

    king khan Boxing Junkie banned

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2012
    Messages:
    10,733
    Likes Received:
    0
    Uhhh, there is such a thing as inside boxing. . . Some guys with VERY good boxing technique on the inside. :patsch
     
  7. king khan

    king khan Boxing Junkie banned

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2012
    Messages:
    10,733
    Likes Received:
    0
    LOL @ thinking boxing is just fighting off the jab off the back foot from distance. . .

    THis is the SWEET SCIENCE. . . This science can be applied from any distance. . .
     
  8. Dracon

    Dracon Frédéric Bastiat Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2010
    Messages:
    3,235
    Likes Received:
    0
    Outside. No matter how good you are at close range, it's simply safer down the line to be a little farther.
     
  9. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2006
    Messages:
    20,449
    Likes Received:
    51
    Yes, but all things being equal the guy who can keep the fight on the outside is going to win. The sport is hit and don't get hit. A sligghtly less talented/skilled boxer can win by keeping the fight on the outside against a more talented/skilled inside boxer.
    You can go a long way fighting off the jab for the above reason. Plus the jab sets up all the other punches.
     
  10. king khan

    king khan Boxing Junkie banned

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2012
    Messages:
    10,733
    Likes Received:
    0

    Agree, but boxing is not just fighting off the back foot. . . Also, there are plenty of inside dominant guys who utilize BRILLIANT double jabs to not only close the distance, but set up vicious hooks to the body. . .

    It all comes down to who can apply their game the best. . . If a guy can weave under a jab, and get his head in the other guys chest, he's in trouble. . .

    That's why usually the best boxers are always able to fight on both the outside, and inside. . .
     
  11. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2009
    Messages:
    28,760
    Likes Received:
    83
    Outside fighter tends to be better so it's not fair. Boxer-mover versus pressure fighter is the quintessential 50/50 type fight. There's no real stylistic edge when both fighters are of equal quality.
     
  12. remi

    remi Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2008
    Messages:
    1,701
    Likes Received:
    0
    good post
     
  13. Well, let us analize this.

    First lets see the top 3 Pound for Pound boxers of All Time

    1 Sugar Ray Robinson
    2 Ali
    3 Mayweather Jr

    Fact - All three are outside fighters.
    Fact - All three are black
    Fact - All three are American

    Does that answer your question?
     
  14. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2010
    Messages:
    40,234
    Likes Received:
    13
    you need an education. boxing is about hitting opponents and not being hit in return. the nature and range of the swarmer means they'll generally take more punishment even if they're skilled. ever wonder why swarmers have the shortest careers?

    Whitaker-Chavez
     
  15. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2010
    Messages:
    40,234
    Likes Received:
    13
    it's also easier for an outside fighter to fight inside against a good in fighter than it is vice-versa

    boxer all the way