Nobody with a poor/leaky defense is going to beat Mayweather..................

You might be right, but the problem is, he doesn't have the set up punches to get that offense going against Mayweather imo. Pacquiao needs to pin Mayweather down before he cant get off, and his best chance, from whats being proposed, is seemingly if Mayweather's legs have deteriorated enough to the point where he presents a more stationary target, therefore has to engage more.


Pac had the success he had with Margo, Hatton, Cotto, cause they are all aggressive fighters, guys who take the lead, meaning you dont have to set up your own offense, you can work your offense off your defense, their offense.


I think thats one of the problems Manny has, Mayweather doesn't have to just control him with the jab, he has a varied arsenal of counter punches, and is a diverse fighter, which is why I anticipate it wont just be the jab that wins him the fight, it will be the whole shebang imo, the counter punching, the movement, which ever he decides to utilize, he will be able to mix up his game plan enough to constantly negate, or adapt to what Manny brings.


There is a huge difference to the way Mayweather jabs, to the way DLH, Cotto jab.

Mayweather changes the rhythm of when he jabs, so its harder to anticipate, he has snap on it, and knows hows to mix it up, for instance, he knows how to throw that defensive jab where your kinda pulling out when you throw out, which means he can rock back and drop the right hand counter, or uppercut on you if you try to follow him, he also uses the slips, he will slip one way (right), then the other(left), then shoot it off the angle, which is harder to anticipate, the guy has a diverse jab when he uses it, not to mention a generous reach.


Pac wont be able to time Mayweather's jab per say, but he might be able to in another sense, what I mean by that, is that the reason he was able to counter Cotto's, is because Cotto fights with too much weight on the lead foot.

A good trainer should tell you when you learning the basics(stance), that there is an invisible line from your lead foot upward(vertically), that your head is not supposed to cross, as your meant to keep your weight central, make sure you're not putting too much on the lead foot, otherwise it can leave you open defensively,as you cant transfer your weight quick enough to avoid certain punches when someone throws, which is why Cotto got hammered by the left hand, his head is closer to your potential counter left, your power hand. Cotto also had to operate from further in, as he is not as long as Mayweather, so as you can imagine, Cotto was easier to hit with the left, as he was closer to it due to a culmination of the aforementioned factors.

Getting back on track, what I mean to say about Pac timing the jab, I think Pac has the speed and timing to counter Mayweather's jab, but I think Mayweather will make it too hard for him to do that, simply because of how smart he is with it.

Mayweather wont put the jab out there at the wrong times, which is why I can see Pac trying to time it, but falling short, now the reason I say he might be able to time it another sense, is cause when he does fall short from trying to time it, I dont think Pac will pull out, I think when he falls short into that mid range, that he will shoot another left hand to get closer, then try to put some punches together if he finds himself infront of Mayweather.

That could potentially be dangerous for Mayweather because of the way!! he protects himself, which is to bend to the right, which is the power hand of a southpaw. This I guess ties in with what I said before about the difference between Marquez and Mayweather in terms of counter punching, Mayweather seems to be a singles counter puncher, where as Marquez is a combination counter puncher, so Marquez can fight you off with combination's of counters if Pac was to find himself in that position, and was looking to put it on you, now will Floyd go defensive after throwing a couple of counter attempts when Pac gets into this position? that seems to be Floyd's nature, to counter you, then look to avoid punishment himself.


I also need to point out, that one of THE most effective things Pac did against Cotto, was when he would overshoot the left, instead of pulling out, he would shoot the uppercut, which helped him get closer in, then he would shoot another! left hand which Cotto was invariably unable to avoid, might he use this punch to get across the killzone to set up another left hand if/when he falls short trying to counter Mayweather's jab?

having said all that, we should not discount, that whilst Mayweather is probably not a combination punching counter puncher, he has more power, so that might negate that somewhat, also, this type thing might only be effective if Mayweather moves straight back, which he does have a tendency to do at times, although I think cause of his length, being able to jab from further out, that after throwing the jab, he will have a bit more time to anticpate that Pac might be trying to close range by using that strategy, so might have a bit more time to think, I better step off to the side, pivot to offset that kind of attack.


Another thing that im thinking though, Mayweather might not use the jab as! much if he uses his legs and fights off the backfoot, as some fighters are reluctant to jab off the backfoot, as it can be a way for the opponent to slip inside and get rumbling on the inside, and if that happened, could work to Manny's advantage, although that might mean that Mayweather is looking to reset him with movement, then throw off the angles his movement creates while he has Pac turning, in transition to catch up to him.


This fight is ALL!!! about whether Manny can set his offense up imo.