Why did Morales lose to Raheem?

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  1. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    I have my own opinions about this fight but wanna see what people think.
     
  2. Julien Sorel

    Julien Sorel New Member Full Member

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    Cause he didnt really belong at 135 but had to cause he couldnt make weight as well as before., also styles of course played a huge part.
     
  3. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anyone notice that all of the opponents he lost to didnt take OSDT? Somethings up.
     
  4. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXG8dDGhO-M[/ame]

    Just listen to the first sentence Merchant says, it's what inspired the thread but I also think there's a few other factors
     
  5. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    He was moving up in weight because he couldn't make 130 anymore and Raheem was a terrible choice for an opponent. Raheem's style was all wrong for someone who was forced to move up in weight. Morales was confused, disinterested and lost. He tried to overpower Raheem but could barely land anything.

    Terrible match-making there in my opinion. Morales didn't need an opponent like that as his first at a weight division he's physically forced to move to.
     
  6. Julien Sorel

    Julien Sorel New Member Full Member

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    what does "fight down to" mean? underestimate? not train hard? fight on their level?
     
  7. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    I don't know if it's the reference Merchant is trying to make but my guess is its kind of like where you betray a little of what you normally do in a competitive match because you feel you don't really need it..

    Kinda like chess, where a high level player will indulge in the lower level player's capture frenzy just to humor them whereas normally they would take each and every move seriously, which reminds me of when they say that Morales doesn't mind brawling
     
  8. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    1 - Raheems was a very good fighter with a troublesome style for Morales
    2 - Morales was past his best
     
  9. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Raheem has a very difficult (almost BS) style overall - even when he had Morales off balance and hurt he refused to take any risks. It's a very negative style to fight against. He had a great performance, and Morales did come in sloppy and soft.

    Luckily, as soon as a guy with that non-pleasing style loses, he is never seen again ... whereas guys like Gatti and Erik can lose over and over and still be loved.

    Raheem is a great boxer, but not a great fighter.
     
  10. Chempasillo

    Chempasillo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    why did rios lost to abril. akward style.
     
  11. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because Raheem boxed masterfully. Shame he didn't cash-in big time
     
  12. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that style was all wrong for morales. raheems style in general is hard to look good period. i didn't like this fight for morales as soon as i heard it. i immediately put $400 dollars on raheem when i heard the fight was made. raheem winning that fight and then not capitlizing on it is like winning the lottery and losing the ticket.
     
  13. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    if there was a fight that arum should have fixed, this should have been it.

    this was a tune up for a pac's revenge ffs.
     
  14. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    the same reason why Floyd will lose to Cotto ..... shot legs!
     
  15. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Pacquiao ruined him