Styles make fights:Hopkins vs. Dawson 2

Gooners2 · Apr 16, 2012

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He beat a better conditioned Antonio Tarver twice..? He landed more punches on Tarver than Hopkins did. Antonio Tarver was fat, and looked like a jelly bean against Bernard Hopkins..? "Look at the video tapes" Due to him underestimating Hopkins and losing weight in a ******ed fashion in a short amount of time.

All these mythical things people say..? To make him sound like a beast.

B-hop starts taking his weapons away < Classic phrase, which you can say to try and look smart.

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.? if any oponent fought negative, the punch output of both fighters will drop..? This is just common sense. But when Hopkins does it..? its some sort of genius, some kind of old school genius skills..? But its not..! The fact of the matter is..?
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, these are facts. Its the reason why he did'nt move up in weight like James Toney & Roy Jones back in the day. In my opinon he's not on their level in terms of pure ability.

Bernard Hopkins is not winning this fight, Chad Dawson beats any Version of Bernard Hopkins, its just a stylistic nightmare for Hopkins.

I honestly don't think he will win a round.

You mention that Chad Dawson is fragile mentally..? who is the fighter that has a record of fighting dirty soon as a fight is not going his way..? who is the fighter who was play acting to get a rest and a point taken away off Calzaghe..? Who is the fighter who play acted..? and claimed that Mills Lane throw him out of the ring..?

Bernard Hopkins, seriously..? he is the intelligent Version of Zan Judah mentally.

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There is an element of the truth to the bolded. Hopkins IS a disruptive fighter. I call him a rhythm breaker though. He uses the illegal stuff to stop you establishing any kind of rhythm. He tries to frustrate you with illegal tactics so he can get you away from your advantages. You can also make the assertion that when he's came up against athletic guys who have Boxing skills, that he's come up short. Dont get me wrong Pascal is quick, but Pascal is a guy that runs around then jumps in with ******ed flurries. He has very little fundamental Boxing skills to utilize his athleticism. He's the kind of fighter who will leave a lot of counter punching opportunities because of how disjointed his style of fighting is.
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Primadonna Kool · Apr 16, 2012

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There is an element of the truth to the bolded. Hopkins IS a disruptive fighter. I call him a rhythm breaker though. He uses the illegal stuff to stop you establishing any kind of rhythm. He tries to frustrate you with illegal tactics so he can get you away from your advantages. You can also make the assertion that when he's came up against athletic guys who have Boxing skills, that he's come up short. Dont get me wrong Pascal is quick, but Pascal is a guy that runs around then jumps in with ******ed flurries. He has very little fundamental Boxing skills to utilize his athleticism. He's the kind of fighter who will leave a lot of counter punching opportunities because of how disjointed his style of fighting is.
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I just cannot for one second, one second? Entertain the idea of Chad Dawson losing ths fight. I think it will destroy his career, and affect his life seriously.

He reminds me of Lennox Lewis mentally abit Chad Dawson..? The biggest mistake you could do to Lennox Lewis..? was to simply **** him off.

"I think this is the case, when it comes to Chad Dawson aswell"

Also the word experience is thrown about by Nazim Richardson..? What the **** is experience..? who has fought more Light Heavyweights..? Who has fought at Higher weights..? Not Bernard Hopkins.

Do you guys think Chad Dawson..? would struggle with a one demensional welterweight called Felix Trinidad..? or a fat Oscar De La Hoya..?
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Canibus81 · Apr 16, 2012

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He beat a better conditioned Antonio Tarver twice..? He landed more punches on Tarver than Hopkins did. Antonio Tarver was fat, and looked like a jelly bean against Bernard Hopkins..? "Look at the video tapes" Due to him underestimating Hopkins and losing weight in a ******ed fashion in a short amount of time.

All these mythical things people say..? To make him sound like a beast.

B-hop starts taking his weapons away < Classic phrase, which you can say to try and look smart.

He just fights negatively when he's up against it..? if any oponent fought negative, the punch output of both fighters will drop..? This is just common sense. But when Hopkins does it..? its some sort of genius, some kind of old school genius skills..? But its not..! The fact of the matter is..? Its just dirty, negative, spoiling, distruptive fighting.

Here's a fact: Hopkins does not beat Athletic fighters with above average ring IQ's. He has always had a problem with athletism, these are facts. Its the reason why he did'nt move up in weight like James Toney & Roy Jones back in the day. In my opinon he's not on their level in terms of pure ability.

Bernard Hopkins is not winning this fight, Chad Dawson beats any Version of Bernard Hopkins, its just a stylistic nightmare for Hopkins.

I honestly don't think he will win a round.

You mention that Chad Dawson is fragile mentally..? who is the fighter that has a record of fighting dirty soon as a fight is not going his way..? who is the fighter who was play acting to get a rest and a point taken away off Calzaghe..? Who is the fighter who play acted..? and claimed that Mills Lane throw him out of the ring..?

Bernard Hopkins, seriously..? he is the intelligent Version of Zan Judah mentally.

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Tarver was slow as hell and older than when Dawson fought him. Funny that you say he beat a better conditioned Tarver than Hopkins did but Hopkins beat the same pascal twice that not only whipped Dawson CONVINCINGLY but showed the blueprint on how to beat him.:rofl Dawson is overrated, your making him more than what he is and like I said, as soon as he starts breaking down mentally and waiving his arms up in there air(trying to act like it's not fazing him, something he did in the pascal ass whippin and the first round of the Hopkins fight) it will be all over from there, because once Hopkins figures you out, it's over with and he will figure him out, like he's done every other opponent. :roll: :nut
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Canibus81 · Apr 16, 2012

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I just cannot for one second, one second? Entertain the idea of Chad Dawson losing ths fight. I think it will destroy his career, and affect his life seriously.

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Hopkins has made a career out of destroying fighters mentally. He did it, Jermaine Taylor, Wright, Trinidad, Tarver, De La Hoya, Pavlik, and Calzaghe to certain extent(he knew loss their fight and he retired because Hopkins ruined that Pavlik fight for him when he destroy Kelly and Joe knew the Judges beat hopkins that night and was scared to fight him again) and he's gonna do it to Chad Dawson after April 28th. Only way Chad can win this fight, is if Gary Shaw buys his own judges and they rob Hopkins like they've done in the past. Nobody has ever beat Hopkins convincingly except a young Roy Jones, and Dawson is no where on Roy's radar. Hell Calzaghe is better than Dawson.:yep You know who else is better than Dawson?

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nv-sQ-RLw8[/ame], this man right here.:rofl:rofl:rofl And if they fight, he'll beat Dawson's ass again. He's gonna have to wait because Hopkins is gonna finish him for good and than Pascal can get his rematch and beat his ass again.
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Primadonna Kool · Apr 16, 2012

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Tarver was slow as hell and older than when Dawson fought him. Funny that you say he beat a better conditioned Tarver than Hopkins did but Hopkins beat the same pascal twice that not only whipped Dawson CONVINCINGLY but showed the blueprint on how to beat him.:rofl Dawson is overrated, your making him more than what he is and like I said, as soon as he starts breaking down mentally and waiving his arms up in there air(trying to act like it's not fazing him, something he did in the pascal ass whippin and the first round of the Hopkins fight) it will be all over from there, because once Hopkins figures you out, it's over with and he will figure him out, like he's done every other opponent. :roll: :nut
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Dawson is not the greatest fighter i agree, Bernard Hopkins is overrated mate. Chad Dawson will beat Hopkins so easy, so bad..? age won't even come into it..? It won't even be a valid excuse.

Chad Dawson beats any version of Hopkins, just like Jermaine Taylor or Joe Calzaghe would, or a prime Roy Jones.

Note: Canibus...Learn how to quote you ****ing mong.
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Canibus81 · Apr 16, 2012

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, just like Jermaine Taylor or Joe Calzaghe would, or a prime Roy Jones.
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Please, you don't even believe that.:roll: Hopkins beat him both times in those fights and he than whipped Pavliks ass and Winky Wrights ass, both guys kick Taylor's ass. Hopkins will always be Taylors daddy. And he beat Joe too, His own father even said it was a coin toss and he thought Calzaghe was gonna lose. Trust me, he knows.:roll:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyz2cws8LBE[/ame]
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Primadonna Kool · Apr 16, 2012

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Please, you don't even believe that.:roll: Hopkins beat him both times in those fights and he than whipped Pavliks ass and Winky Wrights ass, both guys kick Taylor's ass. Hopkins will always be Taylors daddy. And he beat Joe too, His own father even said it was a coin toss and he thought Calzaghe was gonna lose. Trust me, he knows.:roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyz2cws8LBE
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Its so sad..? that people have to debate Bernard Hopkins wins, or give him wins. Bernard Hopkins is awarded credit for fights he did not win. If Bernard Hopkins last 12 rounds..? Even if he throws 10-12 punches per round on average..? like he did against Jermaine Taylor..? Aslong has Hopkins last 12 rounds..?

"Hey he won"

Its just all bull****, fabricated bull**** when its comes to Hopkins.

April 28th..? Its game over.
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Canibus81 · Apr 16, 2012

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Another person who's gonna ***** out and was about to get me into a stupid ass kids bet is Primadonna Kool. I bet that after April 28th, this fella will not be heard about but he will be there hatin but under another name and another avatar...
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This guy is funny. He reminds of the white lady that went to Ali's fight and said she only went to watch him lose. Primadonna Kool has been dreaming for Bernard to get beat convincingly since the Roy Jones fight and it still hasn't happened yet. Hopkins is a true legend and it's reason why he's made history at the age he is today. Fighters like him come around once and a lifetime.
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Canibus81 · Apr 16, 2012

Primadonna Kool said: ↑

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Its so sad..? that people have to debate Bernard Hopkins wins, or give him wins. Bernard Hopkins is awarded credit for fights he did not win. If Bernard Hopkins last 12 rounds..? Even if he throws 10-12 punches per round on average..? like he did against Jermaine Taylor..? Aslong has Hopkins last 12 rounds..?

"Hey he won"

Its just all bull****, fabricated bull**** when its comes to Hopkins.

April 28th..? Its game over.
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Nope, he loss to Roy Jones and everyone thought that. Not a soul said he won that fight, so I don't know what your talking about.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAtohQ6Z0ms[/ame]

And a young Roy Jones would destroy Chad Dawson.
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Canibus81 · Apr 16, 2012

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I am here baby, just that I got some problems with my PC and this is no way-out of of the debate like you and most others suppose Hopkins found a way-out of his first encounter with this fella, Chad Dawson. I didn't attempt to outhink you and prove any superiority cause I am like Hopkins, I am past my forties believe it or not. I have nothing to prove and I will not accept your bet for two reasons: I don't want you to ban yourself from this Forum and I don't want to keep my mouth shut for 3 months, either way it doesn't prove anything... I am pretty confident your slow mover, lanky and rangy LHWT from Conn. will drag himself and will be ashamed to realize that he cannot download his supposedly "boxings skills" on that 46 years old man he said Jean lost twice to... Guess what? He won't be able to do anything either and you know why? Cause Bernard doesn't want this to be his last fight and when a man is on a track and close to accomplish that goal, it is not a mentally weak and motivationally lazy 29 year older who can avoid this... No emotion here, just cold minded and straight, short speech - Hopkins will not get tagged with anything significant as long as he keeps moving smoothly and always thinking and playing tricks... And believe me, Chad, your Chad will get spent by chasing like he's a Calzaghe or something and that's when the counters will find their target more consistently and clearly, not in those early rounds when the youngster is alert and pumped up.

The reason Hopkins cannot stay and trade is obvious. He has said so that he cannot play Dawson's game and fight like he is rematching with Segundo Mercado. He cannot come and jab Chad away like against Jean Pascal in the center of the ring and standing still cause those are two different styles and two different solutions to beat two different animals, no matter what displeases whoever. Even in the rematch, Jean won most probably the earlier rounds but then at about round four, str8 rights and left leads, counter jabs and inside punches found their way home so do not get surprised to see Chad get massively embarrased... Quiet and head down... You probably don't need to get embarrased cause you are most possibly a nice fella who's just interested in proving his thing ( without thinking in any other scenario). But, baby, I am watching this from the times Spinks was a LHWT... Hopkins is a once-in-a lifetime specimen, xtremelly poised, balanced, fundamentally sound, technically superb, still hungry and angry, but most important of all, improvationally smart and a natural on real time and who is he against April 28th? That's right - Chad Dawson who only looks like a wanna be... Hopkins UD.
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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swTshtqbgNY[/ame], this is funny, he even mentions how Dawson was getting frustrated in the fight. Funny ****.

Canibus81 · Apr 16, 2012

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrNLiU0PXTA[/ame], Here's another prediction. He's a fan of both fighters.

Canibus81 · Apr 16, 2012

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrNLiU0PXTA, Here's another prediction. He's a fan of both fighters.
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Very good prediction, even though it's his opinion he hit on all the main things to look for in this fight.

Primadonna Kool · Apr 16, 2012

Where was the MRI scan of Bernard Hopkins injury..?

Primadonna Kool · Apr 17, 2012

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wb3iyBsACA[/ame]

Dorfmeister · Apr 17, 2012

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Dorfmeister said: ↑

This guy is funny. He reminds of the white lady that went to Ali's fight and said she only went to watch him lose. Primadonna Kool has been dreaming for Bernard to get beat convincingly since the Roy Jones fight and it still hasn't happened yet. Hopkins is a true legend and it's reason why he's made history at the age he is today. Fighters like him come around once and a lifetime.
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That is exactly what I make of it Canibus and the fella is getting nervous cause it's getting closer. The fella doesn't think about anything else, Cotto, Floyd, whatever... He just dreams about Hopkins having disrupted their opponents boxing ilegally and that Chad is the man to expose him like in this stupid ass interview where Dawson keeps on sayin that B'nard found a way out when the poor fella was not doing **** either ( b'sides hooking his leg, lifting him up and slamming him down, at least I clap my hands to that wrestling number, it was better covered and disguised than Antwon Echols). Concerning Primadonna Kool and his hate for Hopkins, I only can make it out either by envy, being a RJJ or a Calzaghe fan or , can you believe it, we are in presence of one of the very few Chad Dawson fans in the board??? Anyway, I keep on sayin, Dawson is gonna get tired, ***** out and so is Primadonna who we will find out under another name and another avatar.:rofl
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