Styles make fights:Hopkins vs. Dawson 2

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  1. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_aBf2_MotI[/ame]
     
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    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course it is a toss up fight and that is why betters are playin with their ****in money, not just blasting out stuff cause that guy called Calzaghe a white boy, or he roughed up Allen or Winky or if he put a stop to PR favourite Tito Trinidad. I also noted that Bernard's age is showing in not being able to sustain some shots when he's all out to stalk a guy but I definitely agree that this tendency for Dawson is all BS. Based on what? On his previous achievements, which were those? He fought like Floyd fights and stole it from Adamek who never had faced a guy who was only looking for the stats and the points, he was used to rugged, action packed fights like against Briggs so I find funny that Dawson is now callin Bernard to fight like a "man"... Then he clearly fought a cautious fight with Tarver and caught Antonio the same way Bernard caught him in the fifth round of their fight, difference is that Bernard won a wide points decision and had Tarver holding on against the ropes right at the end and Chad didn't. Glen Johnson, I am not even going to talk about that but to say that in case he rushes early on Nard he's gonna pay afterwards like this guy said. Well, pick'em and that's it, i am out of this *****!
     
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    It was late Bert Sugar in a debate after the horrible events that took place in the Holyfield Tyson rematch and with video conference with moderator, Butch Lewis, Bob Arum, Rock Newman, and Bert of course, that he said that when the Mob run this business it was better run cause these guys come from different places... It was a joke of course, but to me it's more than that... Hopkins is his own boss of course but he has GBP and Oscar himself to pull strings if it means big money ahead ( which is not the case unless Hopkins goes suicidal to the HWT Division) but he's a business partner so Richard Schaefer will be doing his talk in NJ and even tho I consider him a mouse in an elephant world Gary Shaw can still spook people or those elephants so to me, and putting in mind that there's no doubt this is going to the judges and it's gonna be a close fight with chess moves and tremendous inaccuracy numbers, clinches and uneffective time spent, it will all depend on the influence of these men in the judges minds and towards the future... Nobody is gonna spook anyone b4 the scorecards are read by Michael Buffer but when we are waiting for it ( like in the Calzaghe-Hopkins fight in Planet Hollywood) watchers will see things going thru their minds - R they gonna give Bernard another present for his past and future legacy and make it up for his close losses to Calzaghe and Taylor? R they fed up with the antics of the old man and anti-fighting strategies and will go for the youngman and looking towards the future of Boxing rather than thinking about History and Legacies? It's all up to the pulling of the strings on the backstage and that's why everything is silent like the silence of death... It's not death but it is a sort of silence of the lambs I agree with, it's the rotten mechanisms of human and (in)formal relations between Comitees, Commissioners, Judges, Referess, Manages, Promotional Groups and Fighters in this World we call Boxing.
     
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    Yeah you gotta bring up the politics because they have robbed Hopkins in a lot of his big fights and now that he's not saying anything, they can't say anything, we'll see if he gets the benefit of the doubt from the judges being that he's the champ.
     
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    They say AC is Bernard's home, kinda south Philly. I don't know about New Haven, Conn. and to tell you quite frankly don't give a damn about it. But we don't want any favours but these guys are sayin that they are as clean as washed sheets and never were deducted a point in his career. Man, what is this leading to? They want the ref to start deducting points from Hop for clinching cause he is supposed to smash his face with his forehead?
     
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    Depends on who the ref is gonna be. They can't just start deducting points because of clinching, especially if it's smart clinching and he's working his way out of the clinch. That's why B-Hop has been paying attention to Gary Shaw because he knows Shaw will try some underhanded ****, so he's making sure that nothing fishy is going on. Hopkins knows how the politics work better than most boxers, and he's not about to let the ref and the judges **** up what he's trying to accomplish.
     
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    Well, in LA I suppose they don't deduct points at all!!!:admin
     
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    The crazy apart about it is, he talks about how much stronger than Hopkins he was on that night but than claims hopkins was trying to break his neck and his back in the sequence.:patsch
     
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    It is perfectly clear the man lifted him up maybe cause he's doing weight training and stuff but he forgot he was in a boxing fight and then he says that Bernard faked!!!

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    This is literally a dive and then Hopkins faked the injury :admin but they said it was a stunt :admin

    B'sides, this can really damage your neck but it all started with Mayweather and hatton and now Dawson. This is actually Tito on Hopkins...
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    I know I remember that, and it's funny no one brings up the Tito/Hopkins fight when tito put his forearm on Hopkins neck, but than when Dawson did it, oh he just wanted to show how strong he is, like that was gonna faze Hopkins when he already has had that happen to him already.
     
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    He said he was just defending himself....
     
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    Intersting you post this.
    Check out Hopkins facial expression as he's about to go down?

    Hopkins is grimacing as if he's already in pain even before he hits the floor.

    He's grimacing as if he's in pain, and he's yet to hit the canvas!!!!

    Thats faking! Thats premeditating an injury that has yet to occur.


    When Hopkins arm hits the canvas, the expression on his face never changes from what it was when he was up in the air.


    You would think that when the arm hits the canvas, thats when the injury happens and the pain occurs, but instead Hopkins is already grimacing knowing he's about to bail out of the fight and claim injury.

    Premeditation is clear as day as far as I can see from that gif!
     
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    Interesting that you are focusing on Bernard's facial expression no matter how he was lifted up and thrown. I believe that you are already getting your reward as there are no pressers and the weigh-in is going to be over in a couple of minutes, then your personal disapointment and your absence from the forum or I will make you make some facial expressions, hater!
     
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    He actually started grimincing when he hit the floor when you look at it from top view. As for what this Idiot just said about him faking and grimicing before he hit the floor, well anybody will make a facial experession if there getting picked up because it's the element of suprise in a boxing match. I got a good question since divac and all the other haters keeps on claiming he faked this injury, do you think he faked the injury in the second Antown Echols fight? I'm only asking that because his shoulder was popped out in that fight too when he got dumped and he fought the rest of the fight with the injury.
     
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    I am not going to answer whether if he was faking or not. Now people all over the world r sayin that he faked cause he realized he couldn't do anything so he found a way out but of course, Chad provided that way out for him or am I nuts? Obviously if somebody does something unexpected, someone has to show some facial expression of discontentment such as when a soccer player's trunks are pulled down or a ball hits two of the bars and doesn't get in or a tennis ball goes straight in the direction of your face, even if someone naked runs in front of you. Divac is such a poor element in this matter, the guy can't just show how much he dislikes this guy...