Someone on facebook asked me for my cotto vs may prediction....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by freddy-wak, Apr 25, 2012.


  1. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    :lol:

    To be honest, Freddy has been a fan of Cotto for as long as i can remember.
     
  2. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    since day 1 brutha....always appreciated him, even in the amateurs



    i'm an ok dude, but this site has made me come across as an idiot......i blame esb :fire
     
  3. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I commented on an episode 2 24/7 thread earlier in the week that I noticed Pedro had him practicing lateral movement AWAY from the right hand and basically baiting him with his own right hand and then dipping to his left to pop a left hook to the body and a left upstairs.

    I was watching the Augustus fight, Castillo and Ortiz fight last night and the biggest success was pulling a Margarito/Cotto 1 on Floyd...which is be in his face constantly against the ropes, eat his counter punches whilst be a moving target in front of him and just keep digging deep. I can understand why someone like Lamont Peterson would give Floyd fits. If someone can adopt a Chavez Sr. type style...it would break Floyd down. I've NEVER seen Floyd more exhausted than the Augustus fight. Broke his hand, busted his nose and looked pretty exhausted in there.

    I think Cotto needs to just go in there smart and the most important thing he can do, besides using the jab, IS AVOID THE RIGHT HAND! If he can take away Floyd's straight right hand, Floyd is finished offensively. He doesn't have any other punch that carries any venom besides that punch.

    Jab him into a corner, cut the ring off and once hes trapped on the ropes, smother him so the right hand isn't as effective and don't stand straight up while punishing him on the ropes because that right WILL get you. The uppercut will be the next thing to anticipate while he's there, but as long as he's weaving left and right Floyd will look to clinch as a last minute resort and we both know Cotto don't play that **** with people (just ask Clottey and Urkal how that went).

    I smell a BS split decision robbery for Floyd with many middle rounds going either way. Accuracy vs. activity.
     
  4. INSIDER 67

    INSIDER 67 New Member Full Member

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    Dude, its bout odds, and evenmore so its bout how you never know what can happen when 2 champs get in the ring, yes we know how talented and gifted Floyd is, pound for pound the best... BUT there's always that moment in history where even the best fall. NOT BECAUSE THEY WHERE PARTYING OR WHORING OR WHATEVER, but because it just happens. Not luck, not anything else, just what it is...and THAT CAN HAPPEN to Floyd or anyone, doesnt matter how good you are or how hard you train... History tells us that...:deal it is what it is...stop being narrow minded to that.
     
  5. INSIDER 67

    INSIDER 67 New Member Full Member

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    The truth. :good:deal
     
  6. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Narrow minded? You made a shitty comparison. End of story.
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    :deal
     
  8. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    reality is....cotto might win more rounds, but floyd will get the fight....

    manny will blast pass timmy and attack floyd on how bad he looked vs cotto etc etc....floyd will do time, and come out for blood vs manny......manny will make him wait, take on jmm again, lose...and we will finally have may vs manny next year
     
  9. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Augustus was stopped (and that was Floyd coming off an 18 month lay off), in Castillo 1 he was injured and Ortiz was dominated. Cotto neither has the chin, skin nor the will to fight a "Margarito" style pressure fight against someone who can consistently counter him. Plus, this "constant pressure" tactic has been tried to death and it's expected.

    People are looking at a fight that happened over a decade ago, thinking a similar plan will work. That's faulty tactics.
     
  10. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Timing kills speed!!!
     
  11. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    This is probably only the second time in my esb history that I've totally, completely and utterly disagree with a post that wasn't considered a joke or bait for a negative reaction. I truly feel you are absolutely genuine with this opinion and that's what makes it so shocking. Cotto rarely uses his jab as a range finder only time he implements a range finding jab is when he's on full attack mode which these days we see less and less. His jab is the definition of a weapon it's his most underrated weapon. I'm assuming the stark contrast in our views can be accredited to our passion for the sport, passion tends to scramble eye sight. Lol (joke)
     
  12. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Cotto's jab was range finding, he wouldn't have made it even 5 rounds against Margarita.
     
  13. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Lol, they even asked roger about cottos jab...during the interview with roger it was even asked how will they deal with cottos well polished jab lmao! That's like me interviewing Belichik and asking how will Tom Brady handle the Giants pass rush then reading a post on some nfl blog with a random bloke saying "Gaints pass rush is like a decoy they use Tuck, Peirre Paul and Osi as range finders" lmfao!
     
  14. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    a jab can be used as any weapon, really....

    cotto doesn't have a felix sturm jab, but it works for him....he pushes in with it making it easy for him to work inside....
     
  15. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Excellent point mexi