The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl he is afraid of needles
     
  2. Whipdatass

    Whipdatass Boxing Junkie banned

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    You agree with what?
     
  3. borachef

    borachef New Member Full Member

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    People who undergo such therapy benefit on the following: muscle bulk, red blood cells, bone growth, a sense of well being and erectile function.
     
  4. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :think

    The firestorm only came after Pacquiao refused extra testing.

    And please, keep your response, should you choose to write one, under 5 paragraphs. Thank you.
     
  5. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    I encourage Joy jr. to roid up if he fights Dapidran.
     
  6. camden1nj

    camden1nj Active Member Full Member

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    He didn't know what it was. The jail issue he skated from. He has anger issues and things may not end well in the future for that guy.
     
  7. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So Floyd only accused Pac of PED use After Pac refused additional testing ??
    It's been so long.
    O' well. Whatever the case; I am for more testing as long as athletes/fans don't want PEDs in their sport.

    For TRT, it's legal for the population to use but with active athletes, it's a good question. Good question to ask those in the sports.
     
  8. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yea, it happened after the first round of negotiations fell through. Floyd Sr. said something first, mainly cause of what happened to Hatton, but the whole "take the test" **** happened after Pac refused initially.

    TRT has never really been addressed in boxing. It is a relevant question, but in this case, it was almost an attempt at a "gotcha" question.

    Floyd kinda stupid, so I didn't look too much into it. :yep
     
  9. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I used to want to give him more credit on things but over the years, I just don't know. Maybe his "I.Q." points were spent more on how to fight more so than anything else.

    I really hoped he had some hidden Nutritionist and Personal Trainer on the level of Ariza and Teri Tom, but in the end....damn...all I see is Leonard Ellerbe (and maybe he is good...I don't know)...and Chicken wings. And he wonders why Pac goes up and he has declined. So his PED accusations, could just be down to him knowing little about the advancements of nutrition and training.

    Hopefully he knows to take his Flinstone Vitamins in the morning before he starts to devour his candy. Maybe Miss Jackson can sneak one in his candy bag. Floyd's like a little kid sometimes.
    I don't know. Maybe he is playing dumb. Could be. He lives in Vegas after all.
     
  10. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, Ellerbe worked with Sugar Ray Leonard....so, yeah.
     
  11. Caelum

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    Did he?

    What's his background? I heard before he was a trainer but wasn't sure on his credentials.

    Lots of people are "trainers" but not "experts" in the matter.

    Science degree??

    Physical health degree??

    Just experience??
     
  12. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's a pretty enigmatic figure, don't know his educational background at all.
     
  13. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    From my understanding testosterone replacement can be used to game the system.

    While most steroids leave metabolites in the urine that can be detected testosterone replacement commonly uses suspended testosterone most commonly creams. This true testosterone cant be differentiated from natural testosterone because it leaves no artifical metabolites. So its detected by testosterone/epitestosterone

    However, the funny little thing about male biology is that testosterone and epitestosterone hit their adult peaks at different times. Test hits its maximum in the late 20s and starts declining pretty quickly after that. ETest reaches its peak in the mid to late 30s and declines slower. But testers dont account for this effect of age.

    So if you are smart about it and have a good doctor. In your early through late 30s you can take advantage of your rising epitestosterone to actually have more testosterone in your system than you did you were in your prime and still have an apparently normal T/E ratio.
     
  14. Walmsleyface

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    the only thing going on there was Floyd controlling his temper at the noboday asking a **** question.
     
  15. Slickstar

    Slickstar Crisp This Full Member

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    what happen to this bribba?
     
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