PBF: "I Don't Use Plaster Or Fight At Catchweights"

:good Agree. . .

 

Hatton was said to have balooned up to like 190 between fights. Does that make him a full sized MW too? :think

 

I wouldn't. Not at the time.

That 147 fight with Oscar was against a dead man walking, remember. After that fight, when asked how he would fair against the likes of Cotto and Marg, people still said he would get crushed. Do I need to dig up all of the threads? He was still an unknown commodity at welterweight at the time. Even when he went back down to 140 for Hatton, everyone recognized that Hatton was the bigger man and that he had size advantages. The potential fight with Cotto after that, when everyone was talking about it, was always mooted to be at a catchweight, because everyone, including Pac's own team, never regarded Pac as a proper welterweight. So no, having it at 145 between a career featherweight (who only had one fight above 140) against a fully-fledged, live welterweight, was not unnecessary (as evident by hardly anyone complaining about it at the time).

It was only when they crushed Cotto and surprised everyone (including themselves), that they realized he can handle himself at 147, and subsequently had all of their fights there afterwards.

*It's also important to note that, before beating Cotto, they weren't even confident in fighting a Shane Mosley. Remember when he came to Roach's gym saying he'll even come down to 140, and Roach STILL said no? That's because they weren't totally confident in how they could handle themselves against true welters. That all soon changed after the Cotto win, though. Where they had no problem fighting the likes of Clottey, Mosley and even Marg (up at 150).

 

Then why can you fight for welterweight belts at catchweights between 141-147?

 

So Cotto after 2 fights at JMW asking for a catchweight against Margarita was unnecessary, but Pacquiao after one fight at WW asking for a catchweight against Cotto was necessary? I see.

 

No, because Hatton has not had wins over Williams, Pavlik, Barker, Macklin, and Dzinz at MW - BY FAR the best wins of his career. . .

Just saying, if Floyd really wanted to fight Sergio at his strongest weight, it would be 160. . . At least as evinced by his record. . .

However, I would hvae no problem with hte fight at 154, or even a CATCHWEIGHT (yes, if it means a catchweight to make this crucial fight, I'm cool with it) at 155-157. . .

I think Sergio can still make 154, and wouldn't be drained at the weight, though. . But I just think his best, strongest weight is 160.

 

Because the ABC organizations allow it. The welterweight limit is 147.

 

Oh come on . Surely you can see the difference between the two?

Cotto was already a JMW champion that had no problems fighting other JMWs (Mayorga and Foreman) at 154. Whereas Pacquiao was the LWW champion where the only experience of fighting above 140, was when he was meeting a JMW at the only weight it could realistically take place at. Come on, tell me, instead of 147, what weight would you have expected Pac to fight Oscar at (at the time).

 

Thank you :good

 

Yes, his best wins have been at 160, and that has everything to do with the fact that he's faced much better opposition at 160 than he ever did at 154. He's still a small middleweight.

 

Catchweights = Advantage...usually for the requester. Moving up and coming down in weight does NOT net the same results and detrimental effects.

 

I wouldn't have expected Oscar to go below 147, and he clearly was in a position to call the shots. Cotto was a different story. Pacquiao was in a position to make the demands there, and he decided that he needed that little extra advantage.

 

:deal

He using what the *******s excuse was to justify the cotto weight drainage so predictable.

 

:rofl

Jesus christ I'm done with you, do your homework boy

 

You're welcome. :good

A fight with a weight limit of 144 is still a catchweight fight and not a welterweight fight by definition.