The little flurry that sent FMJ into the ropes was the equivalent to a running back getting a 10 yard gain in a game where he'll finish with 15 yards rushing through 4 quarters, as his team loses 45-7. Yes, a 10 yard gain is impressive, but not when you end the game with 15. Ortiz was on his way to a 15 yard rushing game.
There were a few shots I saw where the red touched Floyd's face through the guard, and Floyd wasn't rolling. But I'm not about to debate them either, they didn't really bother Floyd when they did make contact, my point lies less in what landed cleanly and more in how Floyd was momentarily neutralized pulling back straight and into the ropes. Floyd's combination at the start probably won him the round, Ortiz looked to hold after one of those shots, but I remember a slow-motion shot revealing he missed a lot more than I thought.
pac didn't hit jmm in their last fight but jmm's face showed damage. i guess must have been the ref who hit jmm or jmm himself when his punches bounced back on his face after he hit pac's big head....lol....
:deal This is the one time I agree with you, ortiz was doing his thing, I am a Floyd fan but I'll never say delusional **** like "Floyd was whoopin Ortiz ass" "Ortiz couldn't touch Floyd"........bull****.
Floyd won the round but it was somewhat competitive and Floyd had to take some punches. Floyd wasn't cruising like in the JMM fight or the Mosley fight after the 2nd round!
you seem very rationable in your argument. I have learnt that most *****'s on here refuse to be rational at all, and there is zero point even acknowleging them. There arguments are so biased and one sided towards there hero it is completely pointess discussing boxing with them
i'm gonna go all ******* on this, and list some punchstats so, ortiz had his best round and was competitive in round 4? (oh, this happens to also be the round where he lost a point, could have been DQed, and got KTFO in) let's see...in that round ortiz landed 9 of 27 punches while taking 27 (of 67). 24 of the punches he ate were power shots. mayweather basically tripled vic's production. how the hell is landing 9 punches competitive? sure his % went up, but his output slowed too. he was also eating more and more each round. let's look at that. floyd's connects per round 9, 15, 22, 27 (see a pattern here?) vic's 5, 8, 4, 9 (not one double digit round, and all over the place) now let's look at punches thrown by round: floyd 42, 47, 53, 67 vic 42, 46, 33, 27 someone's throwing more and more, and the other guy is getting shut down competitive is not a word to describe that fight
Before the KO I thouht Ortiz was coming on ..Had little success ,but dam what a fool ..I really blame that tree for this fiasco !
After all these years, people still don't get that Mayweather is comfortable retreating to the ropes, letting his opponent punch and miss sapping him both mentally and physically. He did it against DLH, Hatton, Marquez and Ortiz. He does it all the time because he has excellent defense on the ropes, and it allows him to conserve energy, but it nevers feels people see his opponent flurrying like a scholl girl and start claiming they were coming on. Ortiz certainly didn't feel like he was coming up, or else he wouldn't have butted. The fact is, he was eating clean right hands all night, could only land a few grazing shots on Floyd, then on top of that, he looks up and sees Mayweather grab his head and smile, it was too much for him to take. He tried to cheat, and then got himself knocked out the cheating piece of ****.
Punishment? MAyweather didn't take no punishment. However, he did land a few good shots on Mayweather in the 4th, but no punishment was given by Ortiz