The problem with Sky boxing

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  1. Longcount

    Longcount boxing Full Member

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    Agree or disagree?

    I had a long chat with a very experienced promoter yesterday and he said that the root problem with Sky's approach to boxing is that they sign boxers as opposed to promoters. As a consequence of this the fans will never get the fights that they want - that is the 50/50s that seems to be the buzzword of the moment.*

    A promoter will not risk his prized asset (e.g. David Price) in risky fights because if that fighter is beaten and his marquee value falls, the promoter's contract is in jeopardy.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How do you think that'd change if they signed promoters?

    They'd still be reluctant to match them tough, regardless.
     
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  3. brown bomber

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    Isn't it the other way round?
     
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  4. Longcount

    Longcount boxing Full Member

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    I am just putting the idea out there, something that is shared by many of the promoters in the sport. Your livelihood as a professional promoter hangs by a thread because the broadcaster is more interested in a single athlete rather than investing in the future of the sport.
     
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  5. Jack Dempsey

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    Sky should sign fights, not fighters or promoters
     
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  6. Longcount

    Longcount boxing Full Member

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    I appreciate where you are coming from Jeff. Just trying to put a different perspective on it.
     
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  7. Spearmint Rhino

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    I agree.

    Sky should want Macklin vs Barker, Quigg vs Frampton, etc - ''deliver this, or a world title fight or **** off'' should be the motto.
     
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  8. ishy

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  9. Longcount

    Longcount boxing Full Member

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    I just want to clarify that the interests of the fighters are absolutely paramount in my opinion but British boxing is driven by the promoters and that's why I wanted to pose the point.
     
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  10. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yup, and as BB has said numerous times, promoters should have to compete for dates.
     
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  11. Bajingo

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    I don't know. if we have Maloney and Price as an example, Frank doesn't really have anyone in his stable with the potential to fill big venues like Price could, if he wins the British tiyle as expected and goes on to become a local attraction. Now if Sky turned round to Maloney and offered x fights a year regardless of Price losing or anything, would that make him step up Price's opposition? I don't think so. Because if Price loses, Maloney only has "leisure centre" fighters left. And I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, but nobody else is going to be a big attraction so it would still be in his interests to protect Price a lot.

    Same with Fury and Hennessey.
     
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  12. Longcount

    Longcount boxing Full Member

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    Fantastic on paper but in reality that would not work. How could you financially gear a promotional outfit to win dates on tender? There is hardly any money in boxing promotion as it is.
     
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  13. gasman

    gasman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sky seem to be following the US model and giving a big contract to a main promoter - Hearn.

    Hearn will now be in pole position to sign the best fighters post London 2012. Being the main promoter will provide more clout to (in theory) attract the best fighters to one promoter and make it easier to make the fights. Hence, the new strategy should help attract the best fighters (who attract more viewers and bums on seats).

    In the past they were giving contracts to four or five promoters who didnt not want to work with each other - depriving us of competitive fights.
     
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  14. gasman

    gasman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That is an aspiration. How do you expect a promoter to build a stable of top stars without a guarantee of x number of dates?
     
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  15. Jack Dempsey

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    Me personally I couldn't give a **** about promoters, they've had the run of the sport for years and too many fights have failed to happen due to differences between opposing promoters. Putting on **** match-ups and awful fight cards all the while pocketing the money off gullible tv companies.

    Learn to work together to put on fights between the best in the division or all action fights that the fans want to see or **** off and let the TV companies dictate what product they want to buy
     
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