Muhammad Ali 1974 v Larry Holmes 1982

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  1. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    Ali would win an 8-7 UD over Holmes.He takes it in the last couple of rounds.
     
  2. sinol

    sinol Guest

    the ali who fought norton in the rematch and frazier rematch would beat larry holmes no problem
     
  3. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One of my earliest threads on here :happy

    The championship rounds were Ali's forte at that stage of his career.
     
  4. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Holmes would win 9-6.

    Whether he got the decision is another story.
     
  5. JohnnyB

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    I'm not sure.

    Larry was close to his prime but Ali showed against Foreman that he could take the punishment and still had enough in the tank to dispose of Foreman. Ali obviously left a lot in the ring that night so after Foreman his chances go down but if it's before Foreman Ali is hard to beat.

    I can't see Ali being stopped by Larry Bigpants. He might out work Ali and be hard to hit but I would expect Ali to have a plan for this.

    It's a 50/50 fight for me.
     
  6. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  7. Sanxion

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    The Ali who prepared for Frazier and Foreman was in better condition than at any stage after his return. He was lean, strong, sharp, accurate and extremely resilient. As great a fighter as Holmes was, I doubt he would have defeated the Ali of 1974.

    Ali defeats Holmes by a unanimous decision.
     
  8. The Predator

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    Ali 1974 was still fast in his hands and refelexes, Holmes was little of a copycat of Ali and to be honest you won´t beat the original.
    Ali 74 was not in his prime. Ali was in his prime when he fought Cleveland Williams and probably lost his best years during the exile.
    However, Ali take this one. Holmes was good but not that good. He would not beat Ali when thrilla in manilla condition either. After that fight Ali lost some of his speed and reflexes.
    The predator
     
  9. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    you think so?...i dunno about that
     
  10. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    79-81 were Holmes best years IMO and apart from the 7th with shavers, he pretty much won every other round.

    Holmes 9-6 UD. Holmes builds a good lead early on and goes even through the last 6 with Ali. As swell as this the suggestion that Ali of Manila beats 82 Holmes is absolutely ludacris.

    I also think Holmes is one of only 3 heavyweights that has atleast a 40% chance to beat Ali prime for prime, along with Frazier and Lewis. Shame we never saw it happen :/
     
  11. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    :yep
     
  12. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One thing I noticed in the bout they had that would have affected the outcome of an early match is that as slow as Ali was, when he circled around Larry all Holmes did was follow without throwing punches, Larry had to wait until Ali stopped to unload on him. An earlier version of Ali may have won rounds just with his movement and jab unless Larry could have been trained out of this. Benny Briscoe had a similiar weakness he could never change in that when slipping punches he never learned how to throw himself until he stopped the movement.
     
  13. tommygun711

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    there's no way he would beat ali, lol... Even this version would win a decision by a couple points. Ali had the speed, and more importantly, the right hand lead to handle Holmes.
     
  14. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    No way? Really?

    Holmes had speed too not to mention more smoke on his jab and more pop on his righthand than Ali ever did. He could outjab and at the very least jab with Ali.

    9-6 is a close fight. I could see alot of close rounds where maybe Ali`s popularity gets him the edge.

    Ali nostalgia is a terrible thing.:hi:
     
  15. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    This