If catchweights are suppossed to benefit the smaller fighter...

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  1. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Not only catchweight u dumb a$$ but also pac fought fighters not at their best ever since he move up to ww in which are FACTS!
     
  2. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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  3. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Catchweights are there to make the bout even. They benefit both boxers. They do not just benefit the smaller boxers.
     
  4. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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  5. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Didn't help that DLH was at 147 or so like a month before the fight. I was like, "why the **** is he down to that already with weeks to go"?
     
  6. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Who said you were blind? Surely you need good eyesite to pick out such a nonbiased avatar like the one you sport.

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  7. Count Pacula

    Count Pacula Cashweight Thrillionaire Full Member

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    Catchweight fights are generally frowned upon. But they can be acceptable as long as a fighter can lose a lot of weight and still be at his VERY BEST. The tricky thing about this is there is no sure way to find out. The frustrating thing about Pac's opponent(s) is....they are NOT going to turn down the biggest payday of their career if they know they are at a weight disadvantage. Would you make excuses if you were paid millions of dollars? Hell no. Many of you wouldn't think twice about getting in the ring with a prime Tyson if it means getting paid a ton of money to last a lifetime. You'd be too ****in giddy to complain about being weight drained against Manny Pacquiao. It's a win-win for Arum and co.

    The real question for Pacquiao is...Why would you NOT want to fight a guy in his ideal weight class? Wouldn't it be far more satisfying to beat him at his very best? Forget about what others did in the past. If you're a true warrior why not test yourself? If you feel that your opponent is too big for you then simply don't fight him!

    GO BIG OR GO HOME.
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    ok let me ask you a question, of those 2 catchweight fights (3 if you count marquez) is cotto and margarito drained?

    the only drained opponent was oscar but it was not at catchweight. and for this fight, it was oscar who calls the shot.

    did you call on oscar and trinidad for not fighting hopkins at the full weight limit? did you call on ortiz for not fighting berto at the full weight limit?
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Every fight and example, therefore the entire situation around all variables in question, are completely unique to themselves.

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    Hey TS, add to your list:

    Ortiz catchweight Berto - Ortiz UD
    Ortiz was the smaller guy coming up to the full 147 for the first time.

    Gamboa catchweight Ponce de Leon - Gamboa TD
    Both were featherweights, but Leons' previous one was at 130. So, technically Gamboa was the smaller fighter.

    Williams catchweight Ishida - Williams UD
    Williams' previous two weights: 153.5 lbs, 156 lbs / Ishidas' previous two weights: 156.5 lbs, 158 lbs

    So, way to conveniently avoid three recent examples of fights which would contribute 3-0 to the "smaller guy" in your argument. Way to selectively choose and reveal your agenda.
     
  10. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Actually, adding those 3 recent fights also helps point out my case. Show me threads bitching about those fights being at catchweight. Then, show me all the ***** threads about Pac's catchweight fights.

    :hey
     
  11. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Why did you fail to mention this one?

    Bernard Hopkins (light heavyweight) UD12 Kelly Pavlik (super middleweight)



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  12. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Going up in weight is more harder than going down.

    for example: Marquez against Floyd.:deal
     
  13. Cellz831

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    :lol::rofl moving up is harder than going down? yeah, im sure eating whatever u want is much harder than counting calories and draining yourself. lets see u do something physical after a two days of not eating.
     
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    Uncle Roger Boxing Addict banned

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  15. JudgeDredd

    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Naturally bigger man is still gonna be stronger.