Despite Cotto having no chance, Floyd should get MUCH more credit than Pac vs Cotto!

these are some of the *****s thoughts about cotto and his stint at 154 where he is now in the best shape of his life according to them.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=336868&page=6

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=335735&page=5

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=360403&page=2

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367222

 

Uhhh, no, just no. . . At best, Floyd deserves almost as much credit as Pacquiao IF HE STOPS HIM, in similar fashion (referee/corner stoppage). . If Floyd actually gets a legitimate KO stoppage, then it's about the same. ..


Cotto is NOT "best" @ 154. . . He is short, squat, and doesn't even have a big frame (See Pac vs. Cotto tale of the tape - Cotto has equal body measurements as Pac). He clearly has excess body fat at 154. . . And, although I don't buy into the whole "leftover" concept that Mayweather preaches, I do believe that a fighter does leave a little bit in the ring each time they take a severe beat down. . . So, Pac got to him first, at his best weight. . . and NO, 145 Cotto was not "drained" - he was in the best shape of his career. . .

 

And no offense to you, but, you appear to have a short memory of the sport. Of course the 145 catchweight had its purpose. It was to make the level of playing field even. Pac was unproven at the weight. His only fight north of 140 was against Oscar (a win that was immediately dismissed because Oscar was shot). So against Cotto – a live welterweight – it was a given that the fight would take place at a catchweight. People were still trying to get their head around at Pac fighting at above 140, for crying out loud. The catchweight wasn’t a problem leading up to the fight, and it wasn’t a problem straight after it, either. It’s only in recent times as Pac’s popularity has gone up – and subsequently his haters – that the weight’s became an issue. And since Mayweather’s picked Cotto as an opponent, it’s all of a sudden emerged that 154 is Cotto’s prime weight and that he’s the best he’s ever been :roll:.

I understand that in a sport like boxing, for some fights, every pound is worth a lot. I also understand that, depending on what the fight is and who the opponent is, your mental state and motivation can drastically improve, too, to the point where shifting an extra pound or two would not be as hard as before. Hence why Cotto, realizing what a win over the P4P number one in the world would do, had no problem with 145 before AND after the fight had taken place. And also why a guy like Marg had no problem with 150 when Pac requested it, but dismissed it when Cotto did (yes, it was partially because Pac had higher leverage, but it was also because the fight, and the effort to make weight, was much more worthwhile than it was against Cotto). Not to mention another guy, Sergio Martinez, who'd be willing to come down to 154 (even 150) for Pac, May and Cotto, but noone else.

 

Do you have to start a thread and then reply to your own thread 6 times in the first page????


That smellls *****IDISM (an combination of ***** and HEMORRHOID) and desperation.

 

more quotes from floyd fans regarding cotto's state before floyd decided to fight him...

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=360403&page=2

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=365404&page=7

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367222&page=2

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=365404&page=6

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=223559&page=11

 

The only reason why Floyd agreed to 154 is because Cotto will be slow at that weight. Do you really believe Floyd gives away advantages because he's such a nice guy? If you believe that, I got some prime swamp land for sale in Florida, nice water front view, cheap price.

 

yeah, man, those whole 2 pounds made all the difference or pac. I Agree,Floyd saved boxing!!!Don't forget Money's quote of "There's holes in Cotto's boxing game" after Pac smashed 'em. But hey, fight Cotto 3 years later at 154 and BaM!!! cotto A real THREAT bABY! FLOYD SAVED BOXING!

 

pacquiao-cotto odds 2.5-1 (ESB odds: almost 1-1)

mayweather-cotto odds 8-1 (ESB odds: almost 6-1)

 

I believe this speaks more to Mayweather's abilities vs Pac's abilities than it does to Cotto's abilities.

 

Refurbished :yep

 

not really. pac was seen as a small man going-up to fight a prime cotto. floyd and cotto are the same size (floyd was even the first to fight at WW). if floyd has fought the cotto version of 2008 instead of retiring, i'm sure the odds would not be as high now for floyd.

also how can you explain that pac-jmm3 was about 7-1 odds for pac while floyd-jmm was 5-1 odds?

 

You judge a fighter on his previous fight or two. Cotto at this time looks VERY GOOD at 154, there's simply no denying it. I don't give a **** about anything else, except the fact that right now at 154 Cotto is comfortable and strong.

Seriously, he looked great against Margarito. Most importantly (the thing half of you noobs on this forum don't realize) is that at 154 his LEGS look strong. Against Margarito he had energy to tag and move all night while looking good doing it.

There's literally no way you can claim Cotto being "damaged goods" or whatever. Seriously, if you try then all you do is show that you don't know **** about boxing. Damaged goods is when you lose and never return to form (which doesn't even happen too often). You guys act like you're not allowed to have a loss on your record these days.

 

Look at cotto margarito 2. Did Cotto look slow to you?

 

Floyd would not be going anywhere near him if he thought Cotto had even the slightest chance of beating him.

 

Un shot First time I heard that ..