Will Sergio Martinez go up to 168 or a catch weight in between to face Kelly Pavlik?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Enigma1, Apr 30, 2012.


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  1. Enigma1

    Enigma1 Guest

    Didn't Miranda go up in weight against Abraham 3 fights later and lost via K.O in round 4!!? So what does weight prove? And how the heck was Taylor drained for their first fight? He was fighting tons of fights at 160 before the Pavlik fight!

    Go look at the records instead of spewing BS!
     
    Enigma1, May 1, 2012
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  2. RustBelt

    RustBelt The Pride Of Youngstown Full Member

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    answer this... sure.

    I am not bitter he lost! Sergio is a talent for sure. The "weight drain" Was because Kelly was in rehab the last 2 weeks of training camp and had to drop 17 lbs the week of the fight!

    Meaning he was no where near 100%. yet he won 4 rounds and scored a KD.

    What I dont understand is EVERYBODY now thinks Sergio is This ****ing boxing god and is p4p??? He beat the **** out of a 50% Kelly Pavlik, not a Fully prepared one! And it was his right to refuse the rematch at 164 lbs because it wasnt contracted!

    Give Pavlik his due.. He is not a shitty Bum fighter. Sergio Just caught him on the one night he could defeat kelly. And if they do it again, Which Kelly has said Ill go down to 162-163. Under Robert Garcia, it will be a Totally Different Outcome is my Honest opinion!
     
    RustBelt, May 1, 2012
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  3. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know why anyone should believe anything coming out of the Garcia camp about guys making weights after the nonsense with Rios.
     
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  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Martinez has the frame to fight at 168. The problem is that the top fighters at 168 don't reperesent a big enough payday considering how likely they are to beat him.
     
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  5. RustBelt

    RustBelt The Pride Of Youngstown Full Member

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    I hear ya!
     
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  6. Saccowalace

    Saccowalace GOAT Full Member

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    what would be the point? he already beat him decisively :patsch
     
    Saccowalace, May 1, 2012
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  7. Hermit

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    Kelly was considered a "Big MW" when he entered the ring at 168 for Pavlik/Taylor 1. Sergio has entered the ring at 170 yet people keep claiming HE is a small MW.
     
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  8. RustBelt

    RustBelt The Pride Of Youngstown Full Member

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    My point is he beat a Kelly Pavlik who was half the fighter we know him to be!
     
    RustBelt, May 1, 2012
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  9. RustBelt

    RustBelt The Pride Of Youngstown Full Member

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    Regardless of if they fight again at 160, 162, 164, 168 KElly is gonna weighanywhere from 170-175 on fight night.
     
    RustBelt, May 1, 2012
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  10. Saccowalace

    Saccowalace GOAT Full Member

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    then the answer is no. kelly will never have the name he once had hence no reason to fight him.
     
    Saccowalace, May 1, 2012
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  11. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    What is it about Bob Arum and Top Rank PROMOTIONS is it that you seem to fail to comprehend here?
     
    Hermit, May 1, 2012
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  12. Saccowalace

    Saccowalace GOAT Full Member

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    good point, even better reason they wont fight!

    he is not a top rank fighter so greedy bob wont have it lol
     
    Saccowalace, May 1, 2012
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  13. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Arum has worked with Dibella before. It's TR and GBP that is tough to make happen.
     
    Hermit, May 1, 2012
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  14. bmf95b

    bmf95b Boxing Fan Full Member

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    no need to do so.
     
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  15. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Sergio is a 154lb fighter fighting at 160...why do you think he should move up to 168...The guy can eat full meals and make 154...
     
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