Past 130, Manny hasnt fought anyone coming off a big win except Marquez

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  1. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    im so tired of these comparisons...when will people learn its not who you beat but also when you beat them

    Cotto-was beaten after a shellacking at a catchweight

    DLH-beaten after a loss to Mayweather at his natural weight at 154 and moved down to 147 with IV's having fought their in almost a decade

    Hatton-broken down by Mayweather and didnt look particularly good afterwards and starched by Manny

    Mosley-dominated by Mayweather and fought a draw with Mora, then Manny fights him after not winning a fight after 2 years

    Marquez-though he was old and i honestly scored the fight a draw a few times and 2-3 point swing for Marquez for landing the cleaner more effective shots, IMO no way Manny won that fight

    Clottey-coming off a lose to Cotto, and Clottey wasnt ever elite anyway

    notice a pattern....he never fights guys after they looked good past 130
     
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  2. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Arum is a genius...this is not by coinced:!:ence
     
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  3. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    which fighter should he have fought instead of the fighter he did face.
     
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  4. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    Props to his match maker....It isn't like anyone outside of Marquez gives him any trouble at all, even at their best.
     
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  5. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shane Mosley - 2008
    Antonio Margarito - 2009
    Ricky hatton - did it
    Andre Berto - 2010
    FLOYD ****ING MAYWEATHER
     
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  6. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    its more he should have fought people coming off impressive wins
     
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  7. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ridiculous.

    If you're gonna be that stringent when picking the holes of a fighter's resume, then no one's record in this sport will be good enough.
     
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  8. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    And suddenly cotto is amazing again now that he's fighting Floyd. F**k off.

    Topic starter is an idiot.
     
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  9. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lets be real here Many has been fighting at welteweight since 2008


    So he couldnt have fought Mosley beating Mayorga or Margarito

    Margarito beat Cotto in 08 what was the problem then? he looked to big and was coming off a big win

    Why couldnt he have fought Cotto after beating Mosley


    he has to beat people after taking a big loss


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  10. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im an idiot but these are facts

    when Manny fought him, he fought him at a catchweight for his own belt after being beaten to a pulp by Margo and not looking good after getting by Clottey

    At least Mayweather is facing the guy at his own weight, no catchweight for his title, and after good wins


    you are the idiot:deal
     
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  11. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    :huh Are you seriously suggesting Manny should have fought Margarito after just having his first fight at 135 against David Diaz? Please tell me you're joking. You must be. Surely.
     
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  12. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Face the truth...since passing 130 and struggling with Marquez he has been bleesed with great matchmaking...soon as he faces someone who isnt a plodder he struggles or dont look good....Mosley is 39 years old and he couldnt cut off the ring, even looked flustered but Roach gave him all those so -called improvements,,,what improved was strategic matchmaking to accomadate his style:deal
     
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  13. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't be silly. It's who you beat first and foremost but there is relevance to "when" you beat a fighter. A fighter who is coming off a loss can be damaged or better coming off a rebound. The thing about your post is you're wrong with regards to your main point.

    Cotto, DLH and Hatton were not coming off a loss....matter of Fact, Josh was the only fighter since EM who PAC had faced who came off a loss. Floyd has faced fighters coming off of losses... ALL FIGHTERS have faced fighters who have come off of losses at least one time in their careers so I'm sorry if I'm shooting holes all through your argument.....but it was like swizz cheeze even before I came in with my guns blazin.
     
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  14. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he is an all-time p4p great right?? Duran moved up two divsions to beat a better fighter in Leonard...Mosley Moved up two divisions to beat a prime DLH.. the list goes on...Margarito wasnt no ATG just a top guy at the weight at the time...did he not move up to fight DLH at 147 making him weight drain right after Diaz....
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    ...o wait Margo hadnt got kayoed by Mosley yet my bad
     
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  15. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hatton came off a victory over paulie malanagi in a fight where many people predicted malanagi was going to outbox him and keep him on the end of that jab. cotto came off a win over joshua clottey who is very underated and gave cotto all he could handle.
     
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