My analysis of PBF-Cotto

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    First off I’d like to give props to these fighters for signing the fight and getting it done.

    I see this fight as a one sided beating and let me tell you why. Cotto IMO is facing a guy who holds and extreme stylistic advantage over him and has him beat in pretty much every department as well. Cotto is mostly a boxer puncher and he wins by outboxing people which against PBF that’s the worst thing you can do. I think Cotto’s plan in this fight as crazy as it sounds will be to try and outbox PBF. I really think his corner thinks he can actually pull this off and they really overrated his boxing ability especially against a master like PBF. In theory it sounds okay because Cotto has a nice jab with good pop on it throws nice combos and decent footwork but in the ring it will be proven wrong. For one despite having a good jab Cotto has short arms. I don’t really think he can be effective with his jab against PBF not only that he has average handspeed. I see PBF countering over the top of his jab all night long. Cotto IMO doesn't have the ring IQ to bother PBF he won't use feints he's not a master of distance and he doesn't throw the overhand right which is a punch really that bothers PBF. His straight left isn't fast or deadly. He also often abandons's his game plan very early on in his fights see the Pac fight for reference. Another problem for Cotto is that he’s a one handed fighter and no one handed fighter with average hand speed and short arms will outbox PBF. People overlook the reach advantage PBF has here it will be a huge factor in this fight. PBF will take his left hand away and have his way with him. Lastly Cotto isn’t a devastating puncher he has power but IMO it won’t be something PBF hasn’t dealt with before. He will be fine.

    So as you can see outbxoing PBF is pretty much out of the question. Some might say you’re crazy Cotto isn’t going to try to outbox PBF, that’s suicide, he’s going to put educated pressure on him and outwork him and go to the body like JLC did. That’s fine but here’s the problem with that, Cotto doesn’t have the will nor the durability of a prime JLC. Cotto has an average chin at best and won’t be willing to pay the cost to fight that type of war. In addition he busts up too easily and has suspect stamina and defense he’s a sucker for the right hand and uppercut. I know a lot won’t agree but IMO he’s a bit of a front runner bully style fighter and what I mean by that is that if it’s going good for him and he’s hurting you he looks great but if you can answer back and stand up to him he does two things. One he fouls he’s done that against Judah, Clottey and Urkal when he was either hurt or frustrated. Two he retreats and buys time not looking to really engage only to survive. Like he did against Pac Margo 1 and the late rounds against Mosley.

    If Cotto fights this type of pressure style against PBF I see him getting countered to death beat up on the inside and getting stopped. If he tries to box with PBF I see him getting beat to the punch pretty much outclassed but making it to the final bell. The choice is his but either way he’s getting beat on Cinco De Mayweather. Like said earlier I think Cotto is a front-runner so PBF will show respect early on I’m not looking for him to jump on Cotto early like he did against young Ortiz he will feel him out and work on neutralizing his jab and then take him apart. By the mid rounds Cotto will start to bust up tire and PBF will take over. PBF by wide UD if Cotto comes to box and PBF by TKO if Cotto comes to pressure.:deal The only chance Cotto has IMO is if PBF gets old overnight or that the move up in weight really effects him if any previous version of PBF shows up on fight night he's ****ed.
     
  2. JudgeDredd

    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think that's pretty much gonna be the question in Floyds fights from now on, if or when he gets old overnight. Which of course adds more interest to his fights.
     
  3. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A lot of people see the fight going this way. It is logical, and well reasoned. I really hope Cotto is able to land some decent shots when Mayweather stays in the pocket; something he does more and more as he gets older.
     
  4. Julien Sorel

    Julien Sorel New Member Full Member

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    Isnt almost everyone picking floyd? no need to be überflomo about it, its not like your making some bold prediction here.
     
  5. Mr. Minmon

    Mr. Minmon Member Full Member

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    Pretty much. I predict another easy win for Floyd.
     
  6. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good read.

    Can you tell me what it's about, please?

    Thanks.
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I gave a detailed analysis here. Nothing wrong with that. This is a boxing site right?
     
  8. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with this analysis. Cotto will try to outbox him and wont change his gameplan in the last 3 rounds despite being down on scorecards wide.
     
  9. Mr. Minmon

    Mr. Minmon Member Full Member

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    Floyd wins 9-3 with the scorecards even going into the 7th, is my prediction.
     
  10. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's beatdown city for Miguel this weekend. At least he will be well paid.
     
  11. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I get the idea Cotto may try to use movement and distance and I get the feeling Floyd will be the one stalking

    i watched some of the Mosley fight again and he was really backing up using distance selecting when he wanted to come forward

    i know its two different animals but i get the idea Cotto is not gonna be pressuring coming forward the whole time....Diaz knows that isnt gonna work

    I think though that he just has nothing in his arsenal that can get him the W

    I mean maybe he lands a body left hook or one of his jabs or hooks cuts Floyd or bruises him a little

    i think a key for Cotto is the right hand and thats not his specialty, Floyds right will always be in good position to stop the left hook but a right over the low left could work
     
  12. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Sup pimp

    I actually decided not to hit the strip club to watch the fight, I'm thinking the combination of alcohol, naked women, ricans and blacks in the same room during a fight containing a rican and a black might come back to haunt me!
     
  13. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not sure if Pimp C's already mentioned this, but, I think this version of Floyd is the worst possible one that Cotto could have faced. He [Floyd] is a bit more menacing with those accurate pot-shots, is less inclined to be defensive and go on his bike (thus giving up rounds), and is more likely to walk opponents down. He's basically leaning closer to the style that Cotto resents.

    I'd be much more comfortable in Cotto's chances if this was against the 2007 version that faced Hatton.
     
  14. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    That's a good call for a lot of reasons....primarily the voice of experience.
     
  15. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    This can also represent an adverse effect, I'm sure cotto and his team are preparing for all possibilities. Cotto might welcome a pressuring version of Floyd as it gives him a better opportunity to execute within his wheel house. Aggressive right hands reveal and expose the left rib cage, multiple left hooks reveal straight rights to the midsection. So on and so forth