Read below. T Fury, R Helenius both turned pro in 2008 and Chisora in 07, look at what Haye had done in that time frame There is the difference I think
I dont know if I am blind and missed one part from, your text bailey.. You forgot These american prospects had extremely short amateur career before turning pro compared to these fellow european youngters.:think But you have a decent point IMO.
Nice post. I think the American networks are so hungry for an exciting Heavyweight that the promoters here try to create one rather than let one develop. As a result, we end up with over-ranked guys who end up disappointing us on the world stage and perpetuating the cycle.
Some may well have and in that case do need some protecting, but D Wilder was at the last Olympic games and still not making massive strides. If you look at James DeGale (A SMW now and Olympic Gold winner at the same games as Wilder) he has had fewer fights but won British and European titles (as well as a close loss) and beaten a former world champ
Seth Mitchell has shown promise though. He came back from being hurt against Witherspoon and may do well, but I wonder if he would have improved a bit further if stepped up after around 15 fights and gradually built up. In some cases I feel some fighters have too many meaningless fights on the way up and get burnt out a bit. I felt that with Ricky Hatton (not that I was a fan) and lost some of his best days with over 40 fights before a title fight
I know I know, you have excellent point and you are propably right!:good When you mentioned Helenius... Okay he had decent amateur experience.. then turned pro. Everybody was literally laughing at him. he was considered as a joke. but after first few fights against these bums they started to purposefully pick him harder fights one after another. like with some other names you mentioned. I think Wilder is the guy who they really should starting to take risks. He is not learning anything by fighting those absolute no hopers.
The difference is that Mitchell had never even been in a ring prior to 2006 and had a brief non-descript amateur career. He's a lot greener and it shows in the way he fights.
Mofuka needs to... 1. Train with Emmanuel Steward. 2. Spar, train with Wlad and Vitali. 3. Get groomed by the Klits so he can be anywhere close to their level. Im serious. The Klitschkos wont mind helping a future opponent out they are that nice and they want real competitiveness, especially Vitali. Not sure if Mitchell can even beat a Haye or Arreola at this point much less a Klit.
That's a fantastic post Bailey. Very good point you made about how much Haye had accomplished in 26 fights in comparison. Seth Mitchell is 26 fights into his career, and he's yet to step up to world level. Deontay Wilder is 21 fights in and he's yet to step up to domestic level. For the poster who mentioned that these American fighters have had limited amateur careers, Deontay Wilder is an olympic medalist. Tell me what did Dereck Chisora (who just gave Vitali Klitschko a hard 12 rounds) accomplish as an amateur? He fought Klitschko with less than 20 fights to his name. To be honest though, personally I don't consider Wilder a prospect, I believe he's harbouring a fragile glass mandible, as soon as he fights someone with a pulse he could get stopped.
Can't make too big of a deal of Chazz buzzing Mitchell in round 1. Heck, Travis Walker had Arreola down in the first round.
It isn't about getting hurt at this stage, but how you react to it. I though Seth handled himself well and came back more determined. That's always an encouraging sign in a heavyweight.
You say that, but if Witherspoon is able to rock Mitchell and hit him repeatedly with telegraphed punches, someone like Haye would destroy him. I won't even mention what the Klitschko's would do to him.
The problem for guys like Wilder & Boytsov, is that they are so dangerous that decent fighters won't fight them. You can't step up if no one will get into the ring with you. Seth Mitchell does not have this problem! He's a KO waiting to happen, so there are lots of good fighters willing to give him a match. He had BETTER move slowly, or he'll get his head separated from his body.
And thats the point of letting him develop instead of rushing him to fight guys who have solid amateur backgrounds and world class experience.