Holyfield's best fight as heavyweight: Foreman?

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  1. 2fast2see

    2fast2see New Member Full Member

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    I say it was. He was in great shape and stuck to his game plan. Had he fought Foreman like he fought Cooper, Bowe(all fights), and Tyson he would have gotten ko'd.

    Agree?
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I thought he boxed intelligently in the second Bowe fight as well as the Tyson bouts. So no I don't agree.
     
  3. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good I think they both rank above the foreman performance (Tyson II is pretty irrelevant) and he was untouchable in the 2nd moorer fight. You could probably argue a case that Holyfields performance against Valuev was better had the decision gone his way.
     
  4. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think very few would agree on it , i understand y they won't tell it 2 u here , because it's obvious 2 almost every1 , if some1 will agree with u on this , u might get d wrong impression of support 4 this claim , when in fact , d only 1 who agrees posted . I disagree of course . Foreman was 13 yrs older , obese or close 2 it , retired 4 a long while prior 2 his return , and unable 2 rise from a chair and possibly from a KD as well .
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    His best performance by some distance is tyson 1. Tyson 2 was good, mm 2 was good, douglas was good.

    He showed good discipline against foreman and bowe, but against tyson he showed great dynamics and had the 96-97 performances occured during his prime years he'd probably be seen as a better h2h fighter than he is today. Certainly by myself atleast.
     
  6. chap69

    chap69 Banned Twice - Innocent Full Member

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    The first Tyson fight is where the Holyfield legend was made in my view, but i did like the fight with Mike Weaver in his heavyweight early days and he should get a bit more credit for the second fight with Lennox Lewis, Lewis was the better man and i think this fight gets under looked !
    (EDITED I MEANT DOKES - BLAME MR BUDVAR)
     
  7. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "Foreman & Tyson" are Holy's best as champion above 200 pounds... The KO over Douglas was great, too... PLUS! His KO rematch of Moorer in '97... Wicked...

    MR.BILL
     
  8. JudgeDredd

    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bowe 2, Tyson 1 were better
     
  9. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    agree with the consensus here. i think bowe 2 is in many ways similar to pep/saddler 2. bowe had almost every conceivable advantage going in (except fitness) and holyfield neutralized it with a brilliant gameplan in a fight i thought he clearly won
     
  10. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dokes shouldn't be overlooked here. A withering pace, and I wasn't sure early on if Holyfield would be strong enough to stand up to it. When it was Dokes who finally dropped, Evander had served notice that he'd arrived as a legitimate HW. Yes, Michael had abused drugs before Mel "Red' Greb apparently rescued him before Holyfield, but neither had Dokes lost since Coetzee, a span covering 11 fights going back half a dozen years. At 37-1-2, he had the best record of anybody Evander opposed up to that time. Very possibly the HW fight of the 1980s.
     
  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    You beat me to it. A very important fight for the division and a great litmus test for Holy.
     
  12. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    He fought a very good fight vs. Foreman. He stuck to his fight plan well and beat a very well prepared and peak Foreman (version 2.0). I think the 2nd fight vs. Bowe and his first fight with Tyson were as good. I disagree with the Moorer rematch though. Moorer gave him fits despite getting dropped 5 times and stopped after 8 rounds. The Dokes win was very good as well. He may have been great vs. Douglas and Tyson (2nd fight) but it's hard to tell because the fights didn't last long.
     
  13. Tin Man Waldo

    Tin Man Waldo Freakishly Fragile Full Member

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    riddick bowe 2 n mike tyson 1 becos holyfield was supposed 2 b a ko viktim in dem fights
     
  14. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    What fight were you watching? Moorer rocked him hard in the 1st before the bell.

    Tyson 1
    Bowe 2
    and Dokes. My favorite heavyweight fight of the last 30 years.
     
  15. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was going to say Bowe II, but you make a great point.

    That said, I always really enjoy watching the Holyfield v Foreman fight. There was a lot of interesting little dynamics going on in there, plus the event itself was a must-watch.