More Impressive in his Prime: RJJ or Mayweather?

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  1. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    130-140 for Floyd by the way.

    But I would favor Roy at his peak. I've never seen anyone with that type of ability.

    Sums it up_____


    An Interview With Boxing Historian
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    WHY ROY JONES, JR?

    KD -- Some of the questions put forward by the CBZ scholars come to mind at this point.They’ve sent them to me by e-mail and I’ve printed them out and have them here. May I run a few by you?

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    KD -- A couple of years ago you published your own greatest pound-for-pound list in International Boxing digest. You had Roy Jones Jr. at the top of your list. You’ve received much criticism from historians and others—typically older folks—What about Jones’ abilities and accomplishments prompted you to make such a bold statement? And how do you compare greatness in boxers? And would you still put Jones up at the top?

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  2. Broxi

    Broxi Stand With Ukraine Full Member

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    No fighter entertained like Roy in his prime.
     
  3. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    RJJ... Mayweather a G and more G than RJJ. But honestly, RJJ was just more dynamic and unstoppable in his prime against better opposition. I have absolutely no idea why anyone would honestly mention resumes in this discussion. Like others have said, there is NO one in Mayweathers resume that is on the level of skill, accomplishments, and were in their prime like Toney and Hopkins... period. The level of guys that Mayweather struggled with were Castillo, who was a very good fighter, however his level isn't even at someone like Hill, who was way more skilled and accomplished... who COULD make HoF status and RJJ didn't even struggle with him. Corley, another good fighter... but notches below castillo, this guy rocks a PRIME Mayweather and has some success in the beginning of the fight... I honestly dont even know who even matches up with corley on RJJ resume... certainly not Reggie Johnson,maybe Clinton Woods, who achieved more than him.

    But again mayweather a G, and have beat some solid guys...
     
  4. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Castillo's at least a whole class of fighter above Hill and p4p would have wiped out someone like DM, but other than that you're pretty much correct. Floyd IS a gangster, and I have no doubt he'd be rocking a red or blue bandanna if he wasn't a superstar athlete, but honestly **** all gangsters. They're idiots.
     
  5. MAG1965

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    easily Roy. He might not have faced the best when he could have, but he was awesome in every way. I wish we could have seen him put his skills to the test with guys like Benn or Eubank.
     
  6. Dracon

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    ...Or Calzaghe, or McClellan, or that Eastern European LHW whose name I can't remember.:good
     
  7. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe was a career SMW who didn't bother to fight in the States during that time (prime/prime) and/or move up to LH where the LH and P4P Champion was...Roy Jones jr. You go to Roy. Roy doesn't come to you especially when you are the P4P best and hold a more prestigious title.


    Dariusz Michalczewski was a bit different: He fought in the LH division but both couldn't decide on the fight. Problems with who fights where and for how much. So many different stories on the matter. Both can get the blame with this one.
     
  8. Nipple

    Nipple I hate my username banned

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    Floyd hasn't got ANYBODY on his resume that's a great win like the Toney or Hopkins wins.
     
  9. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All guys who deliberately avoided coming to fight the acknowledged p4p champ in their weight division, who also happened to be the #1 p4p rated fighter in the world for a good portion of his reign. If they HAD come to see him, he would have disposed of them with ease and they'd be called taxi drivers today.

    Amazing how people let calslappy and the eurobums get away with avoiding Jones. Can you imagine how the mexicans would have reacted if MAB, JMM or EM had avoided fighting the best??
     
  10. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    what an absolute joke of a question, jones is not even in the same stratosphere as money mayweather.


    1st of all mayweather fights the best where as jones was known as reluctant roy for choosing the path of least resistance, collecting trinket belts and never beating a lineal champion in his entire career.

    secondly, roy jones was a steroid riddled disgrace. the 1st time roy ever got drug tested in his entire pro career, he was found to have 6 times the acceptable level of testosterone in his system. that was for a fight against a bum like richard hall, so anyone who thinks that was a 'one off' is living in a dream world, there is absolutely no way roy would think 'richard hall is a phenom, he's that good i'm gonna choose just to cheat in this fight only'. roy was caught red handed, juiced up against a bum, and will always be remembered as a cheat by true fans of the sport. I only judge roys career from the hall fight onwards when he was fighting clean. on the other hand, money mayweather demands osdt from his opponents, money is cleaning the sport up day by day.

    thirdly, great fighters show their true colours in adversity. what did money do when he got caught by big shots from mosley and judah? what did money do when he ****ed his shoulder up v castillo? now you tell me what roy did when he faced adversity as a 'clean' fighter against tarver, johnson, and calzaghe - thats right roy folded like a lawn chair, where as money may came firing back like a true champion.

    fourthly, true champions can adapt in the ring. money may can fight going backwards, he can fight going forwards, he can counter, he can lead, he can fight on the outside, he can fight in the pocket, money may is a master at adapting his style to find out his opponent with an outstanding ring IQ. now what did roy jones do when plan A didn't work? what was roy jones' plan B? thats right he didn't have one. roys plan B was to get his gormless face smashed to pieces and lay on the canvas while the referee counted to 13,392.
     
  11. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    This.
     
  12. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    HEADBANGER just dominated this thread with yet another definitive post.
     
  13. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Every post Headbanger makes is a troll post, so everything he says is most likely the exact opposite of what he really thinks and the actual logical position.
     
  14. PowerPuncher

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    Jones competition is better than Mayweather's, so what does that say?

    And btw you mean you weren't following boxing in Jones prime
     
  15. TAFFA

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    Captain hook hands down!