More Impressive in his Prime: RJJ or Mayweather?

the delusion that surrounds the likes of jones, toney, and hopkins on esb is surreal atsch

what you must remember is that america is the most blinkered, insular nation on the planet, its people only ever see whats planted infront of they're faces and have a narrow minded ignorance about everything else that occurs on the planet, they even call they're baseball finals "the world series" :rofl

they want to pretend that roy jones is not a drugs cheat, they want to sweep it under the carpet and pretend its not real, yet the very same posters would be squealing like pigs if the same thing happened to manny pacquiao :yep

so many posters of here have spent they're lives being brainwashed by the bull**** the hbo crew forced down they're throats, so many gullable sheep have been brought up to believe everything they have read in they're ring (comic) magazine, they have lived in a fantasy world in which only a few of the posters on here have been able to break out of (team G, cannucks, rico spadafora, zakman) and see the truth :deal

comparing roy jones to a real great in floyd mayweather is laughable :rofl

 

every post i make is backed up with an array of mouth-watering facts, deliciously set out so that even posters with an IQ of a springer spaniel (like bernie bellend) are left with no alternative but to bend over and take 12 inches of that team elite corporation **** deep in the ass :deal

 

You know what? I think everybody suspected or proven of using steroids should be kicked out of professional sports. It might take a little while to replace EVERY SINGLE ATHLETE ON EARTH, but I'm sure we could get it done before next year's Super Bowl.

 

You said Jones is in the running for the GOAT... atsch

You think Roy Jones' win over a green Hopkins is better than anything Hagler achieved at MW. When I challenged you twice to put your money where your mouth is and make a thread on the topic, you didn't respond. I wonder why...

Also no Jones' competition isn't better than Mayweather's, not even close. Hatton, ODLH, Judah, Marquez, Mosley and Ortiz are all far stronger opposition than Glen Kelly, Derrick Harmon and Rick Frazier. When Jones stepped up as a clean fighter to fight guys like Tarver and Glen Johnson, he went life and death and got stopped twice.

Exactly, these people think Jones is greater than Hagler, Leonard, Hearns, Robinson, Ali and other greats. Based on what? He beat a severely drained and dehydrated Toney, who struggled with the like of Dave Tiberi, Montell Griffin, Drake Thadzi and Sanderline Williams. He beat a green Hopkins who needed another two attempts to win a world title, and all of a sudden he's the greatest atsch

 

You sound more like Anglo every day.

 

Yes I did, and I'm not the only one. There are pro sports commentators saying the same thing and that even before his career is over. What do they say about Mayweather? He's a coward who ducked a live welterweight division and is ducking Pacquiao now. What does Floyd say about himself? He won't fight Pacquiao for 'health reasons' no matter how many drug tests Pac takes.

Hatton, a shot ODLH, Judah, a tiny JMM, a shot Mosley and ORTIZ are better than a prime James Toney and Bernard Hopkins? Put down the crack pipe before you burn yourself son... never go FULL ******.

 

Mayweather was one bad dude as a lightweight. As I said, a half step above Corrales and Castillo, a half step below the super elite greats like SRL, Hearns and Pacquiao. Roy Jones is a half step behind NOBODY. You can say Ali was better (and I do), you can say SRR was better and that's fine, but RJJ is in the debate. Floyd can't even SEE that debate from where he stands in the ATG rankings.

That's how I see it, that's how experts see it, that's how history will see it.

 

He is not half a step behind pacquiao at all.

lmfao. Now rjj is the GOAT. wow this forum is stupid.

 

James Toney is grossly overrated. What did he ever achieve at SMW? This slob had to cut over 30 pounds to make weight to face Jones! In his prime he lost to Montell Griffin and Drake Thadzi, and struggled with the likes of Dave Tiberi. Tell me, what had Hopkins accomplished when he faced Jones? He needed another two attempts to win a world title.

ODLH was a champion and made Floyd come all the way up to 154 to face him. Judah was the lineal WW champion not long before. How was Mosley shot? He just destroyed Margarito and was P4P number 3 for many, and the consensus no.1 WW. Pacquiao's camp turned down Mosley at that time, he was considered highly dangerous. Add to that, wins over the likes of Hernandez, Corales, Castillo (x2), you have a very impressive resume. Also, Mayweather isn't a proven drugs cheat, which enhances his legacy in comparison

Slightly past his prime, Roy got knocked out by Tarver and Glen Johnson. That's what you get for facing the likes of Derrick Harmon and Richard Hall all those years, he barely fought a live opponent (Reggie Johnson was a good fighter) from the James Toney fight, until the Ruiz fight. Yet this guy has a better resume than Mayweather, and can be compared with Leonard, Robinson, Ali...

 

I used to think Floyd would beat Pac if they ever fought. Now I think the opposite, Floyd has actually come right out and said he won't fight Pacquiao because he cares about his family and wants to be there for them. If Floyd himself thinks Pac is going to **** him up, who am I to argue?

 

James Toney is one of the most overrated fighters of all time (like Roy), a steroid cheat (like Roy) and was weight drained for that fight.

Hopkins is THE ONLY great win on Roy's resume but even he was green at the time.

 

When has Floyd ever said that Pac is "going to **** him up". Lmao.

 

RJJ's record since being busted for steroids:

12-7

Shane Mosley's record since being busted:

0-2-1

Margarito's record since being busted for illegal handwraps:

1-3-0

Toney's:

6-3-1

Vargas:

4-3


I don't think that all of these are just a coincidence.

 

yeah and there's also that little matter of going from middleweight champ to heavyweight champ.

Surprised this little interview isn't getting more play on ESB: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...anny-pacquiao-fight_n_1472947.html?ref=sports

 

Roy Jones was not a HW champ, he handpicked a paper title from a C level fighter he knew he could beat. It's really not that impressive, look at what Toney (another former MW) did to Ruiz. A better question, did Roy Jones beat the man in any division he campaigned at?