Im Concerned About My Health ?

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  1. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tmJDW2FFOk[/ame]


    Self Preservation ?

    Fried Chicken ?

    i think he made some good points but i can see how others would beg to differ, so lets here it (read it) or atleast VOTE !!

    LOL when floyd says pacman head was small and then it grew, he sold that **** right there.
     
  2. r1p00pk

    r1p00pk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    bassically he's sort of baffled by the fact that pacquiao is running through these guys doing what they can't (cotto couldn't knock down shane but he could) etc All that with his speed, power and all that have transitioned well sort of makes him scared because it's kind of unreal. I mean if you think about it , all this happens pacquiao doesnt want to take the tests. He's just thinking about his safety because there is a huge speculation that pacquiao might be doing roids and that unfair advantage could leave him crooked by the end of the day.

    It's self preservation, i mean in his shoes i'd be questioning a few things too. You can never be too safe, you get cheated once and you're cheated your whole life once it comes to boxing. You saw how miguel's career was cheated because of the margarito beating.


    And for the head arguement, I don't even know why he mentioned it, a guys head can look bigger when they gain weight :huh Heck cotto's head looks much bigger than when he was around 140
     
  3. box247

    box247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He obviously doesn't want to fight pac and thinks he's on something. Keeps adding demands to get out of the fight. Maybe if pac carries on looking bad in hiss fights things will change
     
  4. Caelum

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    You have to take it from his side as well. If you were in his position, wouldn't you make sure that ALL your opponents are on an "even" playing field ?

    Would you go into a fight with an opponent that has an unfair advantage...someone that is bigger, stronger, faster, and has more endurance than he should have even he were natural...especially when that can make a big difference in a fight ?

    Would you go into a fight with a fighter that has loaded gloves ?
    Because to Floyd, it's the same.

    So I don't see No Problem with him asking for further, more up to date testing. However, he should also request to do Year Round, Random testing and he should follow it too.

    So what is he against ?
    Risking his health against someone that is trying to cheat his by cheating the system to get an unfair advantage...just like a guy that loads his gloves.
    So he says...let's do it fair...take the test.


    That said...I still have a problem with someone accusing another of cheating without any concrete evidence. Although again, I'm not in his position. And others over the years, especially writers and athletes behind the scenes have always pointed out physical and performance changes...which is what he is doing.

    So maybe I would call it like I see it if that's how I saw it in his position. Especially when people are making you stress about it it may be hard to keep quite with how you feel and see it.
    I would at least draw attention to the testing system as failed and all those that refuse a better testing procedure should be seen as suspect.



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  5. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    but guys what about the fact that certain types of steroids cause skull growth and create an unmistakable "steroid head" look.
     
  6. r1p00pk

    r1p00pk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    can you provide pictures of examples?
     
  7. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think its only HGH that thickens the bones but I could be wrong.
     
  8. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am amazed that people can't tell a steroid user from a non-steroid user. For me, it is all about the face and skull. Certain types of steroids cause skull growth and create an unmistakable "steroid head" look. I'm going to post a bunch of pictures of "steroid heads" so you know what to look for in the future.

    Jason Giambi

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    See how his head extends WAY beyond the edges of his eyes. If he was born with a large head, his eyes would extend a bit wider as well. There is no question that he has been abusing for years. What is really crazy with Giambi is that you can see the edges of his skull before it expanded from steroid abuse.

    Roger Clemens

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    Roger's head has the same effect as Jason Giambi, but maybe not quite a bit as extreme. He may fight the charges, but to me there is no question. Does anybody else see what I'm seeing. Am I crazy and just seeing things, or does he have a major case of the "steroid head" ? Rumor has it that Clemens injected steroids from 1998-2001.

    Jose Canseco

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    Jose Canseco admitted to using steroids. He has serious steroid skull growth for sure. This picture doesn't show a great angle, but his skull growth is just as bad as Giambi's.

    Let's Compare These Guys Heads to Obvious Steroid Abusers

    Everyone knows that all Professional Bodybuilders are blatant steroid abusers. If you still don't believe this, you are fooling yourself. Every single competitor in IFBB (International Federation of Bodybuilding) uses steroids on a regular basis. Natural bodybuilding is a respectable sport…even though I am not a fan of bodybuilding…I like it that they are trying to make it a fair competition.

    A Look at a Few Bodybuilder's Steroid Induced Skull Growth

    Jay Cutler

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    Jay Cutler won the 2006 and 2007 Mr. Olympia. Although this is a competition of steroid users, it is quite a major feat. Everyone in the competition uses unreal amounts of roids, so it is an even playing field.

    Lee Haney (1991) and Dorian Yates (1993)

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    These two former Mr. Olympia winners have slight skull growth from steroid use. What is funny is that their heads don't look as warped as the baseball players. Maybe it is because these guys are so massive. Dorian Yates doesn't have an attractive body at all, but he has muscle density at a higher level than I have ever seen. I rarely look at bodybuilding pictures anymore. I can't believe people want to look like this!

    All The WWE Wrestlers Have a Case of "Steroid Skull" As Well

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    Professional Wrestlers typically all have enormous heads. The only thing worse than that is their body. This leads me to another telling sign of steroid abuse. The overly thick mid-section. This is especially noticeable when the person has low body fat percentage and has a huge "muscular gut". This is often times caused by growth of internal organs from steroid abuse. Excessive steroid use does all sorts of crazy things to the body!

    Male Pregnancy…Pictures of "The Steroid Gut".

    These images are really disturbing to me. Men are suppose to have small waists and broad shoulders. This is a terrible look. A lot of steroid users have really thick mid sections.

    Dorian Yates

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    Here is what a typical bodybuilder looks like when he isn't in shape for a contest. I'm sure there isn't a woman reading this that finds this the least bit attractive.

    Ronnie Coleman

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    Here is a picture of Ronnie Coleman relaxing his stomach for a second while posing. Although he has a visible six pack and is at a super low body fat level, that stomach is super thick! It is even more apparent when you see a side shot.

    Jay Cutler

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    This picture is good because it shows the distended stomach of both Jay and another Mr Olympia competitor right behind him. These guys are really "paying the price" to win. They will have many health problems as a result as they get older.

    The Massive Head and Thick Gut Combo is a Dead Giveaway!

    All the baseball players pictured above have the "thick stomach" thing going on as well. I just showed their heads, because that is where the steroid side effects are most obvious in these guys. The bodybuilders have the big head thing going on as well, but what stands out the most is their huge, yet muscular mid sections.

    It is Possible to Use Steroids Without These Side Effects

    Obviously, I am just showing some of the biggest offenders. There are a lot of guys who take steroids for shorter periods of time and they just have a bit of these side effects. I applaud the George Mitchell and his "Mitchell Report". We need to stop these guys from using steroids for their own good. They do it because they need to be competitive with other steroid users…it is a sad and unhealthy viscous cycle.

    Next thing i will share is this video i found a while back, its a pacman hate video but with all vids like the pacman and mayweather hate vids they all have some truth to them, more lies but some truth. i let you be the judge as to what is and what is not.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfnEyrL3pWQ[/ame]



    After all the steroid abuse in sports these days I think it should be mandatory for blood and urine test done regualry and randomly. Thats the only way to know for sure for NOW !!
     
  9. platnumpapi

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    The huge guts are from HGH and insulin abuse from everything I've read. Bonds was also stacking anabolic steroids, HGH, and insulin and his head grew tremendously.
     
  11. Boxing Fanatic

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    gawd u r making me hungry
     
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    Pacquiao has ALWAYS resembled a neanderthal. And his dome has always been massive. OP is a ****** and Black Supremist.

    :lol:
     
  13. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    for some reason i find the epic music in these steroid vids hilarious :lol:
     
  14. bloomstombs

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    1st fight or last. Every boxer should be concerned about their health.
     
  15. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Because it doesn't fit whatsoever.