Why do people say DLH took a dive against B-Hop?

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    All that is true and maybe a real bodyshot KO. Although may people thought he dived because let's be honest it looked like an innocuous tap of a punch. Sometimes soft punches can do you if placed right so who knows. Also he may have thought 'forget this, Hopkins is coming on strong, he's going to KO me, I'm out'
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I gotta say, it really didn't look like an innocuous tap to me. It looked like a bit of a fist-slap, yes, but Hopkins threw his full weight into it jumping forward and caught DLH on the exposed side as Oscar stretched himself over in the other direction (leaving his organs protruding slightly upwards and even more vulnerable).

    It's the same as the phantom punch, or the Marquez-Ramos KO. People need to get it out of their heads that how it looks when hard punches land (or when people react to them accordingly) is always going to mirror exactly how it looks when choreographed in TV and the movies. Quite often it does not.
     
  3. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bull****.I've seen hundreds of boxers knocked out by bodyshots and NEVER have seen a boxer pound the canvas with his glove like that.And this bull**** punch wasnt strong enough to cause something like that.Prove me wrong and post a boxer getting knocked out with a bodyshot and then pounding the canvas with his glove.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :blabla
     
  5. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Atleast he doesn't beat females, in front of their children and sucker punch people like a fukin coward.
     
  6. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hundreds of boxers knocked out by bodyshots? You're either 80 years old and been watching boxing since the 1930s or you're full of ****.
     
  7. HawkFan16

    HawkFan16 Unshot/In My Prime Full Member

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    From a business standpoint, it would have made no sense for Oscar to take a dive versus Hopkins. Hopkins was never going to be a draw anyway. The typical corrupt arrangement would be "Hey old man, take a dive, give me the middleweight belt because I'm marketable as hell, and then I'll give you a cushy executive position for life." It wouldn't make sense for DLH to go to Hopkins and say "You know, you're not marketable, so I'll lose to you on purpose to make you look good, but then you have to take a highly paid executive position working for me as payback." The latter dive theory makes no sense. The former (had it happened) would make perfect sense.

    Had Hopkins lost to DLH by body shot KO, then I would expect there to be more theories of a dive. But DLH was simply hit by a much bigger guy in a vulnerable spot. And DLH always handled head shots better than body shots anyway.
     
  8. Dracon

    Dracon Frédéric Bastiat Full Member

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    You know there's a thing called Youtube, right?
     
  9. Str8ryte

    Str8ryte Boxing Addict Full Member

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    From what I've heard, people felt that BHop hit Oscar with the inside part of his glove and looked more like a slap, How Oscar reacted to it and I know a couple of my friends thought that Oscar could feel that BHop was not going full speed to begin the fight and when he started turning up the heat he didn't want to get his head taken off.
    ME PERSONALLY, I believe Oscar just didn't like it to the body, hence him always wearing his protector up to his ****in' armpits.
     
  10. Str8ryte

    Str8ryte Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, you're right. Woman beat him while his ****** ass dresses in woman's clothing.
     
  11. Str8ryte

    Str8ryte Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This has nothing to do with either one of those fighters. If you can't handle your fighter getting ripped to shreds for being a cross-dressing fruitcake that quit after one of the weakest body shots i've seen then get the **** out of the thread you shitty ass ALT.
     
  12. Beatle

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    It can't be good for your body to force so much extra weight on it. Oscar should have stayed at welterweight his entire career, where he probably would have dominated the division. Instead he wanted to move up through all these weight classes, and his body eventually said no.

    Before the Hopkins fight, Oscar fought Felix Storm at middleweight and I thought Felix beat him by 2 points.
     
  13. StreetsofRAGE

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    It was hard to catch the body shot live from that angle, everybody's drunk just yelling random **** during a fight, have never been in a fight, have never taken a body shot (let alone one from a bigger, stronger man), etc

    You can't argue with these kinda people...

    As for the guy saying "show me a fighter reacting like that after a body shot" you're a full blown ******. Me explaining why will do you no good, but here goes:

    Just because someone hits their glove on the canvas it doesn't indicate anything of note.

    It has happened before, but I'm not gonna go through a hundred thousand fights (a lot of which aren't on film) to prove it because of my next point:

    Just because something has never been witnessed before by a random person, doesn't mean that event cannot occur. For one example out of the infinite possibilities that I can provide: up until 2001, nobody had EVER seen somebody hit 73 home runs in a single baseball season. But then it happened.

    Back then people with this logic of "i've never seen anyone smack the canvas after a body shot" would be like NOBODY CAN HIT 73 HOME RUNS IN A SEASON!!! I'VE NEVER SEEN IT! SHOW ME THE FILM ****ER OR SHUT THE **** UP! IT CAN'T HAPPEN, I'VE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE.

    Now kindly **** your own ass dip****.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :good :clap:
     
  15. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats what I thought.When you supposedly get nailed like that the last thing you wanna do is pound the canvas with your glove.You know when you see a great bodyshot(Gatti vs Ward 1) none of this secret placement bull**** you have to slow it down to really see it.And it was more of a cuffing punch.