Do the Mannyweight fights hurt Pacquiao's Resume?

The problem I see with this one is, Marquez was always going to make that bout competitive (even if I didn't think he was capable of at his age). Pacquiao dropping down to 140lbs after a number of years would have brought a negative up against Marquez's performance. Pacquiao was drained, etc.

We know how it works on this forum.

In the long run. No one will give a **** about the catchweights. They will remember his great, exciting performances going through the divisions.

 

Lemme pose a question....so its not a coincidence Cotto moved up after the fight? Dude looks way better and hasnt had stamina issues past 147...

the real question is "Do the Mannyweight fights hurt Pacquiao's Resume?"

obviously you guys voted no, I respect that....I voted yes for my own personal reasons.

Its because some of the guys he fought werent at their best IMO...DLH for sure wasnt hadnt fought at welterweight in over 7 years prior and fought as high as middleweight, Margarito and Cotto were coming off huge loses and beatings and also had to fight at catchweights, also he and Maruqez are essentially the same size, why couldnt they just fight at 140 or met him halfway like 141 or something....

IMO Manny is still an ATG and a HOF, 2nd best p4p in the world right now, but I cant say im as impressed with him jumping the weights as I am with guys like Kid Gavilan, Jimmy McClarnin, Georges Carpentier, Henry Armstrong, Tony Canzoneri, Sam Lanforde, or even Mayweather who fights guys at their best weight if they are larger than he is.

 

Yes in a word. However if were gonna go into detail it's probably best to say that some over react about how much it would effect his legacy, while many also under react.

 

looks a little soft here...

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Well, it's pretty clear to me why Cotto moved up. He had just taken two career beatings at WW. He was out of love with the sport, and losing the extra half stone in camp may have been demotivating. He saw opportunities at Light Middle to start afresh and pick up a belt. I'm sure I seen an interview with him saying he could make 147lbs if an appetizing bout was presented to him.

Cotto's last bout at WW was 145lbs, not 147lbs. Like I said, pretty clear to me why he moved up.

 

Has anyone ever heard Cotto state he struggled making it to 145lbs? If he has never stated this (like many a boxer does afterwards), why would you assume?

 

Cotto didn't want the bout? :think

Arum backed him in to the corner by having the World title on the line in the catchweight. Cotto had no problem whatsoever with the catchweight itself.

 

i mean in the belly part. cotto doesn't looked as ripped as he was at WW when he moved up. he obviously had more muscles in the arms and biceps. cotto's frame is for WW and he would be a midget compared to others at LMW. it doesn't matter though since floyd is also a WW.

 

You have basically just agreed with me. Cotto AGREED to the catchweight. He had NO problem with it.

 

guys...guys stay on topic....I explained why i feel it hurts his legacy as far as credit for moving up and fighting larger....I wanna hear why you feel it doesnt or why it does as well, lets get off of Cotto for a second.

 

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