Do the Mannyweight fights hurt Pacquiao's Resume?

same questions to you...


did ortiz hurt his resume/legacy when he beat berto?

did marquez hurt his resume/legacy when he beat (according to some fans) pacquiao in the third fight?

did pavlik hurt his resume/legacy when he beat taylor again a second time?

 

Bollocks, he accepted. If he was so much of a "company man"...he wouldn't have kicked up that much of a fuss over his world title being on the line. He threatened to call the bout off.

He turned it down because he has been campaigning at 154lbs for the last couple years. He was in the driving seat in these negotiations with Pacquiao, it was they who wanted Cotto (to look good after Marquez).

Fight Pacquiao at a catchweight with your belt on the line again (something he didn't want in the first bout).

Or fight a new opponent in Mayweather at the full limit?

Easy decision.

 

1) No when he moved up he fought the champion at his best weight in his prime undefeated
2) he moved and fought a larger guy on a roll, not someone coming off a beating like Pacquaio often does....the answer is no
3)No, because both guys were huge middleweights their is a difference both were probably a little more comfortable not cutting that extra weight both guys are 6'0"+ middleweights and both moved up very soon after the fight.


there is a difference...Manny is fighting for belts at catchweights where his opponent is the champion(cotto) or too large for the weight(Margo and ODLH)..so answer my question

Do the Mannyweight fights hurt Pacquiao's Resume? and explain why?

 

He accepted because it was a big payday. You have to end up accepting the contract put forward by the bigger name to get a shot. It's not fair but floyd and pac can go elsewhere if you dont meet their demands. Thats why they won't fight as no one is getting the upper hand

 

In the long run, it does not.

Cotto is considered a very good win for Pacquiao by many. Including many Mayweather fans, etc.

 

Yes; why do a fight at 145 if you could do it at 147?

Why move up to a 154lb division if your going to put a 150lb stipulation?

Pacquiao is garbage with his weight demands!

 

im waiting.......Do the Mannyweight fights hurt Pacquiao's Resume? and why

 

so for other fighters that are fighting at catchweights, it would not hurt their legacy but if pac was fighting cotto at a catchweight of 145, he hurts his legacy even if pac was clearly the smaller guy compared to let's say ortiz against berto or even marquez against pac?

pac fought cotto who is a champ, ortiz fought berto who is a champ and marquez fought pac who is a champ. but only pac hurts his legacy and the other two doesn't hurt their legacy? :huh

 

No one cares about that JMW belt. He was just throwing Margo a lil bone in regards to the weight.

Everything else is legit except for the Oscar fight (when looked at a purely WW and up perspective) and he was still the underdog in that fight

 

already posted my thoughts in the first few replies...

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this is ******ed and just plain hating. those catchweight fights are just circumstances and product of pacquiao being a little man moving up in weight.

first the hoya fight which was done at 147. do you actually think that pac shoudl have fought oscar at 154? if you say so, then you are a ******. pac just moved up from 130 and has only one fight at 135. so you are saying that pac should ahve fought oscar at 154 jumping 3 divisions instead of two? and remember that oscar is supposed to be fighting floyd a 2nd time at 147 but floyd backed-out and oscar has no choice but to cherry-pick a SFW/LW in pacquiao. and before the fight, oscar was a clear favorite to stop this version of pacquiao. does it hurt his resume? only if you're a hater or an idiot.

second the cotto fight, pac came back to LWW after fighting oscar at WW. just weighed 138 against hatton and would fight the first real WW (oscar was considered by most as a fluke and not a real WW) in cotto who weighed 146 in his last fight against clottey. regarding the circumstance, 145 is a good concession for both parties with pac moving up 7 pounds (138 to 145) while cotto moving down 1 pound (146 to 145). also pac was considered only as a slight favorite and ESB has it as a pick-em fight. does it hurt his resume? only if you're a hater once again and an idiot.

third, the margarito fight. margarito who fought most of his career at WW has moved-up to LMW after suspension. margarito is one of the eilte WWs when the weight division was waxing hot back in 2005-2009. the fight was made as to ake pac an 8 division champion at catchweight of 150. margarito is not a ranked LMW so this fight would only credit pac for fighting a named fighter in margarito and not so much for the 8th title. but credit still since pac only weighed 144 while margo weighed 150. there is around 17 pounds of difference come fight night (pac 148 and margo 165) and yet pac battered margo and fought him head-on. if cotto was getting credit for beating margarito, pac should get credit as well. is it bad for resume? it's still a good win and should not hurt his resume.

 

im gonna explain this nice and slow for you but i asked you one question and you are avoiding it....
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so back to my point...Do the Mannyweight fights hurt Pacquiao's Resume? why or why not

 

if i show you a proof that ortiz-berto is a catchweigth fight would you think otherwise?

and cotto was coming from a tough clottey victory and a demolition of jennings. no one looked great against clottey even in a win (except pac). cotto was back in the mix as the top WW at the time and has a vcitory over mosley. and if you are arguing other than catchweight for this thread, then you are in the wrong thread coz this is specifically asking if catchweight fights hurt pac's resume or not.