Does anyone think Cotto has as good chance to win tonight?

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Cotto impressed me. I oversold the physicality angle. Cotto did a good job forcing Mayweather on the ropes. Mayweather partially obliged as he could have made it a little easier boxing and moving. I think he was trying to set some traps on the ropes. His Ring IQ is a pinch overestimated in my book. And he's not a high volume fighter so he's capable of being out-worked at spurts. Cotto was greatly conditioned and fought the fight of his life. His stamina still was a bit of an obstacle. That 8th round was something else from Cotto, but clearly exerted him a little too much.

    Cotto jabbed well, especially to the body but did not jab quite often enough. His body-work was superb, and he seemed keenly aware that Mayweather's defensive vulnerabilities were up in the middle between his guard. I wished Cotto had shifted to his right more and angled some left hooks to the middle of that guard. That sort of maneuver was there for the taking, and when he had that angle at times he landed that shot in between the slot.

    A really fun and competitive fight, although not a close fight in terms of scoring. I only gave Cotto 2 rounds (Could have given more and some may have been draws). The people with me had it more 8-4 for Mayweather.
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Cotto is slightly on the way down he has slow hands and his chin is not great, he doesn't beat Floyd, unless he gets very, very lucky.
     
  3. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Upon first watching (granted I was caught up in the excitement and had a few beers in me), I had it much closer and didn't find the rounds decisive enough to score on first watch. But I agree with the rest of your analysis :good
     
  4. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd's lucky he wasn't in with a Carlos Palomino level fighter tonight.
     
  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    You were wrong.
     
  6. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great fight, great level of skill shown by both fighters. Cotto is a top level fighter, Floyd is an elite fighter, and proved it again last night by raising his game.
    Anyone with an iota of boxing knowledge knew Cotto was going to push Floyd out of his comfort zone and its been so long since thats happened so it was nice to see how he responded because thats when you see how much talent these guys have. Floyd really showed some stuff last night.
     
  7. biglemon

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    I felt Cotto had a strong chance, I think he did as I expected, but Mayweather is just a cut above .
     
  8. mikeatris

    mikeatris SUPREME MATHEMATICS Full Member

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    Who runs the general section, kids? You can't say nothing wrong about certain fighters before they start crying. I thought the fight was close with Cotto landing the bigger, better shots. I had it almost even, maybe 7-5. Floyd was just throwing punches out there for a few rds but got credit for his output. Cotto was more methodical, taking his time and timing his shots. Them body shots were brutal and hurt Floyd bad, had him to a crawl in the middle rds. I said this and they were all on me. Gonna stop going into that forum. It is hard to voice your opinion over there.
     
  9. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought it was the opposite. Cotto won a few rounds in similar fashion to how DLH did. Floyd is so difficult to hit cleanly, and Cotto was just throwing shots in flurries, but Floyd was really the one picking the shots and doing a great job punching inside Cotto's flurries.

    Realistically there's only two ways to beat Mayweather, land a big shot and stop him or smother him and try and outwork him like both DLH and Cotto tried to do. There is noone who has the kind of boxing skills Floyd has and Pac's only real chance is to do the first and try and land something big with his speed and power. Otherwise its a one sided shut out with him too because he doesnt have the boxing skills or reach to outwork him and rough him up.
     
  10. mikeatris

    mikeatris SUPREME MATHEMATICS Full Member

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    Floyd defense can be penetrated, just look at Roy Jones -Eric Harding fight. Roy laid the blueprint to get by that type of defense, its just a shame fighters wont emulate that on Floyd because it would work.
     
  11. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have to give credit to Cotto for hitting Floyd more than anyone since Castillo but Cotto got tired in the end. I give Floyd credit for adaption but he had a few scary moments. Floyd dominated Marques better than Pac but Pac dominated Cotto better than Floyd....interesting
     
  12. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cotto has always had problems when he had to cut a lot of weight, not to mention he didnt really have a qualified corner in that fight. There are more factors to weigh in on than just a simple comparison of the two fights. I think Marquez was also outsized by Mayweather whereas with Manny its more of an even fight boxer vs puncher in the size and reach category.
     
  13. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That makes little sense. First off Harding is no Mayweather and Cotto is no Jones. Your talking about an elite fighter that could box pretty good penetrating a good solid fighters defense in Harding.
     
  14. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    In the general I predicted a 10-2 affair. Cotto impressed me, but it was not a tougher fight than Oscar, Castillo, or Augustas. So no I was not wrong.
     
  15. mikeatris

    mikeatris SUPREME MATHEMATICS Full Member

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    How that makes little sense. Are you telling me you have to be an elite fighter to box pretty good and have a decent defense? Look at the fight before you make crazy post. And for some people who claimed they know boxing, only one person knew the exact fight and agreed with me on this one. Eric Harding had the same kind of defense Floyd and Hop used years ago and it was giving Roy fits. He figured it out. Youtube the fight, watch it, then get back at me.