Was Jack Johnson lying or telling the truth on the following statements?

As has already been established ,Johnson did not write that trash, so neither is applicable , but you have fun masturbating over it..
Langford scaled 155lbs for a fight with Young Peter Jackson a year prior to his fight with Johnson , still you carry on with your little fantasies.
NB The original of this booklet surfaced in 1911, it is 127pages of bull**** written by an unattributed French hack,and was translated 3 .times. The last time by Christopher Rivers nearly a century after.

Johnson's real autobiography " Jack Johnson In The Ring And Out", came out in 1927,I have a copy .

Here is Johnson on the Langford fight.

"Langford however,disliked me,principally I think,because I had defeated him , having given him a good beating at one time.

At any rate,he bet on Jeff.and his friends and others followed his example.

The results were disastrous for them, but preceding the fight.Langford's activites lent colour to the rumours afloat concerning me.

Recently he is reported to have said in an interview, for a magazine article that he found me an easy opponent,in spite of the fact that I defeated him.

I have no desire to exaggerate my ability as a boxer,nor to mimimize the capacities of my opponents.

Langford calls attention to the fact that he knocked me down to indicate that I did not have the best of him.

If Mr Langford really gave this interview, all I can say is that ,in the language of the prize ring,he is punch crazy, for no such knocking down of me occurred.

The fact is that I dropped him a few times during the encounter.

The boxers and sports writers who witnessed the event ,among whom I recall the names Joe Walcott,Mike Twin Sullivan,John Twin Sullivan,Stephen Mahoney,a noted Boston sports writer,and Alec McLean a fight promoter will attest the truth of my remarks."

" Jack Johnson In The Ring and Out"



Knock yourself out with your hatred and bigotry.
You are beyond sad.:-(

 

Just between ourselves doesn't it get hot in those bed -sheets? Oh and be sure to provide those PRIMARY SOURCES

 

I'm sure we would all be interested to know what you see on FLIM.
Is it the opposite of FLAM?

 

Eat your heart out Dr Z.:happy:happy:happy

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Can I pose question to Mendoza are you racist?

I don't really see it in your posts, if so though please explain why.

 

Johnson fight with Willard was legit. Jack Johnson had habit of claiming every loss was a dive. Footage from a historian shooed that afte rko by Willard, Johnosn not only stayed down, but his legs straightened out, touching canvas, which was about 110 degrees. That is a ko, not afake.


Ketchel fight, if he was carrying Ketchel, why did both men have so much damage? Ketchel was bleeding in middle rounds, and had damaged eye and ribs. Johnson was beat up too. Johnson and his defenders used the idea of a fix again, as they did in Willard loss.

 

I just ooked up Johnson Ketchel bout. Ketchel was down twice, once in 2nd, once in 6th. carrying him? Does not seem so.

 

Johnson was beat up? How did that happen? Perhaps the ref hit him?

 

Watch Johnson pick him up off the floor twice, what does that tell you?
Anyone who thinks Johnson was not carrying Ketchel probably loves wrestling.

 

There's no film of the Johnson-Langford fight so we don't know whether Johnson was down or not.

The Ketchel fight looks like Johnson was carrying him. Also, the knockdown of Johnson looks a bit odd too - he was falling before the punch landed. So, yes, so could say that the fight could have been "fixed" in some way.

The film seems to show Jess Willard hit Johnson with a serious punch. I think Johnson probably lied about that being a "dive".

 

We do know he wasn't, because we have primary sourced ringside reports of the fight to judge by.
See below.

http://senya13.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Jack Johnson

I believe Johnson agreed to carry Ketchel for the sake of the film cameras, film footage shows him grabbing Ketchel twice ,and keeping him on his feet.

1. Ketchel either got too frisky and Jack put him in his place.

2. The knockdown was faked, as Gunboat Smith ,a sparring partner for Johnson at the time states.
Footage appears to show Johnson falling before the blow hits home.

Take your pick.


I believe the ko by Willard was genuine, and that the fight was fought entirely on its merits. A 37 years old Johnson was in front after 20 rounds.The referee, Jack Welch stated, if it was a 20 rd fight he would have given the decision to Johnson, but Jack then ran out of gas.
Willard who had played a waiting game ,simply outlasted the out of shape champion, the punches that floored Johnson look hard and accurate.


Sam McVey, Johnson's second, had to help Johnson onto his stool, he later said Johnson did not quite know where he was for some minutes after the ko.
Willard knocked out two of Johnson's gold teeth with a left hook, a fact that Johnson revealed to Barney Curley the promoter the next morning.

 

I've read reports of fights where the reporters have failed to note knockdowns that are confirmed by film.

 

So any primary sourced ringside report that is not on film is not reliable?

I guess we believe what we want to.:huh