And THAT is why Pacquiao wouldn't fight Cotto at 154.

If it was "regardless" then why did Pacfraud ask for a catch weight? Was it regardless unless they actually fought?

Not to mention Pac's ducking of Mosely.

 

Because he was unsure he could take a real welter's punches. Turns out he can. Can you blame him for having doubts when nobody would give him a chance against Cotto here on ESB before the Oscar fight?

 

When you where born? During that time line, Pac's team feels that he is not yet proven at 147...Roach mentioned that after the Oscar fight, that it will be his last fight at 147, Roach does not even want Pac to face Margarito. But then after the Hatton fight, Roach was impressed with Pac's power and the public demand for the Cotto fight grows, Pac weight is 138 vs Hatton, Cotto weigh 146 against Clottey, so 145 is a fair deal. Cotto made no excuses, he told he is fine at 145..

Man people accused Donaire of fighting smaller people.

 

Yes you can blame him.

Don't pollute the history books and these forums with your "accomplishments" if you keep gaming them. Don't ask me for credit for that BS if you did it to both Cotto AND Margarito. It shows a pattern.

 

When was I born? During the time that title fights are fought at weight, i.e. 147 and 154, and not at BS catch weights. When were you born?

Who cares. If you fight at guy's weight and want the credit for beating them you beat them at weight. It isn't about Cotto. Cotto never makes excuses. It is about Pacfraud and his ******* fans attempting to draw comparisons.

ODLH - a shot skeleton
Hatton - Beaten by Collazo, KTFO by Mayweather, no camp
Cotto - Destroyed by Marg, no camp, weight drained
Clottey - No camp due to Arum screwing the visas
Margarito - suspended, gifted a belt, weight drained
Mosley - beaten by FMJ, shot

The dude is all smoke and mirrors. Even when given the chance to make it right, Cotto at 154 or Mayweather on May 5th, he runs. If it doesn't matter, why does he keep asking for catch weights? Even your post alludes to an advantage!

 

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The SWW belt was a sham, hardly anyone will argue. It was still a gutsy fight for Pac, and a good accomplishment.

The way he won the belt at 145 wasn't ideal, but he's since proven he's a deserving titlist at the weight. I dunno, would it have been better if he'd beat Matt Hatton or Miki Rodriguez for it at 147?

But that was his first CW, and the outcry started immediately. In the mean time there's CW title fights all the time that nobody is crying about.

 

Why did Chavez have a catchweight with Whitaker at 145, who wasn't even known as a puncher? Meldrick Taylor also fought Terry Norris at 149 for his JMW title. PPL need to stop pretending Pacquiao invented catchweights to drain fighters, they look stupid and ignorant.

 

Like I said, this isn't the first time Floyd has stepped up to the plate and took on a challenge that "Pac" avoided. It won't stop fliptards from repeating the same old nonsense about "Pac" always taking on the biggest challenges while Floyd carefully handpicks his opponents, but everyone who doesn't daydream about eating Manny's ******* out knows what's up.

 

That's good, does that mean you *****s have now abandoned the "leftovers" argument?

Good then, if you're fair you'll see Ricky Hatton was more of a challenge at 140 where he was unbeaten then at 147 (where he arguably lost to Collazo)?

Also Marquez was more of a challenge at his prime weights 126 and 130 then at 147 where he was cheated on the scales.

Also legitimises Pac's win over Cotto, because if he's still great after two good beatings, he was still great after the Margarito one.

 

Don't try to lump me in with anybody else, ******. How can I abandon an argument that I didn't take part in to begin with? Exactly.

Are you one of those fliptards who says that "Pac" always takes on the biggest challenges, ignoring the fact that he wanted nothing to do with Mosley when he still looked like he had a pulse and the fact that he wanted nothing to do with this version of Cotto anywhere north of 147? If not, I don't see WTF you're responding to my post for. If so, you're a ****ing moron.

 

Who told you? Pac will never veer away from a fight. Whether the fight is done at 155 or 160, Pac will fight Cotto.

 

Mosley's performance against Canelo only shows that he's not an over the hill fighter. When Canelo cannot even knock down Mosley will only increase Pac's stock as a fighter.

 

:rofl Mosley's 40 years old and hasn't won a fight since '09. He's clearly a shell of his former self. Canelo couldn't even knock out Ricky Hatton's gay little brother Matthew.

 

Is that why they were in negotiations for a fight before Cotto decided to pursue other options when "Pac" refused to fight him anywhere above 147, dip****? :yep