Is Joe Calzaghe P4P the greatest white boxer of all time?

Seriously, I'm not even joking when I say there are just as many ATG white boxers, as black boxers. . . For some reason, people tend to think otherwise, but the proof is in the pudding, to use a hackneyed cliche. .

 

Willie Pep was overrated.

I'll take Benny Leonard, Greb too.

 

I'm glad to see yet another poster share a similar opinion to my own with regards to Calzaghe:

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Oh ****, Canelo at this point isn't better than Hoya ever was. Quick, delete that part of your message before you get flamed lol.

 

I don't think there are as many white greats as there are other races at all, off the top of my head:

Leonard, Greb, Walker, Pep, Marciano, Wilde, Calzaghe, Rosenbloom, Ketchel, Lamotta, Graziano, Ross, Zivic, McClarnin, Buchanan

Now compare them to all the of the greatest black fighters?

Robinson, Armstrong, Louis, Ali, Gans, Langford, Moore, Charles, Williams, Montgomery, Jack, Gavilan, Saddler, Mayweather, Hopkins, Holyfield, Holmes, Leonard, Jones jr, Whitaker, Johnson, Burley

No contest IMO

 

"White Boxers" made their mark more so Pre-WWII. Tougher times and less options forced the poorer Whites into boxing.


Not saying there aren't poor whites today (because there are), but the "Pre-WWII era" with all it had to offer and not offer was significant in luring them into boxing.

 

You forgot top 10-20 all-time great Packey McFarland

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...along with Tony Canzoneri, Gene Tunney, Lou Ambers, Kid McCoy, Billy Conn, Tommy Loughran, Carmen Basilio, Jack Britton, Jem Driscoll, Owen Moran, Sammy Angott...

 

Pep
Greb
Tunney
Dempsey
Marciano

 

I'm sure I forgot some black dudes too. Like Flowers, Tiger, Foreman, etc.

 

Yup, just pointing that out, considering he deserves to rate higher than somebody like Bernard Hopkins or Larry Holmes (among many others).

 

Not even top 10 p4p.