Is Joe Calzaghe P4P the greatest white boxer of all time?

I don't think so. Higher than Holmes sure, but not top 20. Quick list:


1. Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Hank Armstrong
4. Harry Greb
5. Joe Louis
6. Roberto Duran
7. Jack Johnson
8. Ray Leonard
9. Ben Leonard
10. Pernell Whitaker
11. Willie Pep
12. Mickey walker
13. Archie Moore
14. Jimmy Wilde
15. Rocky Marciano
16. Roy Jones
17. Sam Langford
18. Marvin Hagler
19. Joe Gans
20. Jack Dempsey

Honourables - Carlos Monzon, Bernard Hopkins, Ike Williams, Barney Ross, Ezzard Charles, Gene Tunney, Salvador Sanchez, Manny Pacquiao

 

The Klitschkos are the two greatest white fighters of all time. They would dominate any era.

 

I totally agree with Roe here.

In a p4p sense, he pits his punches together better than anyone. And in a p4p sense, he is the fastest of the white greats. His inside uppercut is also one of the best ever IMO.

 

Um....hmmmmmm.....well............NO!!!!:deal

 

Disagree, especially with Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Jimmy Wilde, and Rocky Marciano on that list. Guys like Tony Canzoneri, Jimmy McLarnin, Barbados Joe Walcott, Charley Burley, George Dixon, and Holman Williams have better resumes (much better in some cases) and stronger cases. And there's no way possible that Ezzard Charles isn't in the top 10, let alone not being in the top 20. Fitzsimmons needs to be up there as well. I can't possibly put Joe Louis in the top five either.

 

Disagree, especially with Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Jimmy Wilde, and Rocky Marciano on that list. Guys like Tony Canzoneri, Jimmy McLarnin, Barbados Joe Walcott, Charley Burley, George Dixon, and Holman Williams have better resumes (much better in some cases) and stronger cases. And there's no way possible that Ezzard Charles isn't in the top 10, let alone not being in the top 20. Fitzsimmons needs to be up there as well. I can't possibly put Joe Louis in the top five either and there's no real argument for having Sam Langford below somebody like Jimmy Wilde. None whatsoever.

 

The tables have turned

Now there's black hopes and great black hypes

Klitschko Brothers - Unforgivable Whiteness

 

I just threw that list together quick, relax. Disagree with it all you like but Mcfarland is not a top 20 guy. I agree Langford should be over Wilde though.

 

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Either Klitschko easily destroys Marciano and Dempsey on the same night.

 

So no Floyd Mayweather, no Tommy Hearns? No Lennox Lewis? Roy Jones above Hagler? That list is terrible.

It's criminal how underrated Calzaghe is on these boards. He's the best SMW of all time, and a H2H nightmare at LHW. He had a very unique style, managed to reign as a World Champion for over 10 years, was never defeated and was the man in two different weight classes

 

Lennox Lewis destroys both Klitschkos.

 

When you don't know the history of the sport, why even try and put together a top 20 list? It has no credibility whatsoever.

You're just as bad.

 

Mayweather? He missed too many fights. Calzaghe had 2 fights at light heavyweight and barely beat 40+ year old Hopkins. 2000 Jones would have wiped the floor with Joe at any weight.

 

Let's see yours then?