The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Mosley was prime at 135.

When they wanted the fight in 2006, Mosley turned it down. It sucks, but lots of politics involved.

 

Pac has the Barrera wins. Prime. Oooft.
Who's the ****** that send went life and death? He won comfortably. Some real biiased idiots on this forum

 

In their prime days Manny was fighting Barrera , Morales and JMM.

Floyd in his prime was fighting Brussels , Gatti and fooking Shamba Mitchell.

This should not be forgotten . A legacy is not one year or one fight.

 

So give us your take? Without the insults please.

 

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Floyd wasn't prime in 2005. Floyd was prime probably from 99-2003 when he fought Corrales, Castillo, Hernandez etc.

 

I agree with this.

 

Barrera was not prime in 2003 dude. It was a good win but he had already been in a ton of wars and KTFO already.

 

He's pulled closer, but he's still not close. Cotto was a good win....his best win in all likelihood. I rank it higher than the Corrales fight. But then you consider Pac (a smaller fighter) not only beat a younger fresher version...he beat him up. Floyd still doesn't have career defining type beatdowns in the quality of Pac/Mab 1. Maybe it's not his fault, there's not enough fighter's of that caliber around his weight class going up, but he really didn't do himself any favors by not fighting certain fighters and having long lulls of inactivity. At the end of the day, ATGreatness is judged on quality not quantity. Sure Floyd is 43-0, but he still trails Pac in the quality department....and he's pretty much ran out of time.

 

Pulling closer, he's matching the big names that Pac has. Pac is fighting more often helps with his resume, whereas Floyd's fight intervals helps with his ppv

 

Pulling close. Haha. I got my laugh for the day.

 

Floyd is not that much larger than Pac IMO. What do you base this on?

Their big wins are -


Pacquiao: Marquez, Barrera, Hatton, Cotto
Mayweather: Hernandez, Corrales, Mosley, Castillo

Both have solid wins over good fighters like Chavez, Solis, Larios, Lehdwaba, Manfredy.

It's really even.

 

pacquiao went life and death against a 38 year old jmm and lost then robbed jmm lool... mayweather schooled a younger version of jmm.. lol

 

In boxing, size pertains more to frame. Don't get me wrong, weight plays a huge factor in "size". Pacquiao has the frame of a lightweight. Guys like Katsidis, Marquez all weigh similarly on fight night because of their frame. If you look at the tale of the tape, alotta lw's are 5-7/5-6....65-67 inch reach, and end up weighing in the 140's come fight night. Floyd's frame is more typical of a ww...dude has like 72 inch reach. And he's like what?...5-8 and weighs in the 150-160's. So even if Pac and Floyd are only within 5 lbs of each other, it doesn't tell the whole story, and is entirely inaccurate to say that they're basically the same in size. Obviously not the case when Floyd's "size" gives him certain advantages over Pac.

 

How do Pac's losses affect his legacy, if at all? Would Floyd have lost to any of the guys Pac fought at 130?