Current David Haye vs Ali at the rumble in the jungle instead of Foreman

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Duffy, May 9, 2012.


  1. Duffy

    Duffy Guest

    With Haye having the same height, style, power and weight as young Foreman just how do we think this fight would go down seeing Ali vs "The Hayemaker" during the exact same moment in history.


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    With Haye being equal to all of Foreman's attributes then we also have to look at the advantages that has over Foreman.

    Footwork.

    The characteristic footwork employed by most of the world's major boxing has changed little over the centuries, and has remained largely invariable between radically different cultures. The boxer relies on 'push stepping'. In which the leading leg advances first, then the rear, with the feet coming to rest in the exact relative position.

    Rear movement is a reversal of this step, and lateral movement involves push stepping in the same fashion, with the foot closest to the desired direction stepping laterally, followed by the opposite foot, which is used to move the body.
    For the pugilist, footwork is to be deft and simplistic, allowing the fighter to move in and out of striking range as quickly as possible. Footwork is key to generating sufficient power in the basic strikes shared between the major styles. During the jab, the lead foot can move forward to close distance or remain stationary. During the cross, the rear foot pivots inward to launch the rear shoulder forward, allowing the cross a good deal of its strength. During the left hook, the lead foot pivots in an inward manner to transfer bodyweight. The right hook's pivot is identical to the cross (assuming the boxer is orthodox). The lead uppercut, like the jab does not use any pivotal motion, the power comes from the transfer of bodyweight to the lead foot. The rear uppercut employs the same inward pivot as the cross. To maintain balance, both feet can step, pivot or slide as appropriate. The jab may be thrown while moving forward or backward; for the other punches it is advisable not to throw while in motion.

    Head movement.

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    All in all I think Haye will be able to push ali to the limits but in the end lose this one on points.
     
  2. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    A 1974 Ali would embarrass him. If Haye had the title, Ali would show no mercy. He'd thrash him. Probably KO or TKO around 7th round.

    For ****'s sake, in 1974 Joe Bugner would probably easily outbox Haye.
    Haye would be lucky to crack the top 10.
     
  3. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    Haye would be blowing out of his arse like George did that's for sure.
     
  4. joegrundy

    joegrundy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    With Haye having the same height, style, power and weight as young Foreman

    :dead
     
  5. roe

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    :lol:
     
  6. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    He will run and lose the widest decision possible, collect his check and blame some injury/bad trainingcamp or whatever for his embarrasing loss.
     
  7. cheekyvid

    cheekyvid Detroit, I shall return. Full Member

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    He hasn't got the same power and he has a worse chin.
     
  8. Ireland

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    Ali would most likely win a UD or a late TKO, it depends if Haye throws alot or not, fighters taller than him he tends to throw little, but fighters smaller or the same height he throws a far greater amount.


    Out of 10 fights Ali wins 8 to 2.
     
  9. roe

    roe Guest

    :blood
     
  10. Scottrf

    Scottrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With a best Heavyweight win of an old John Ruiz I can definitely see why you see his attributes as similar to Foreman.
     
  11. DanielJFiasco

    DanielJFiasco Active Member Full Member

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    I want some of what this thread has been smoking...
     
  12. Duffy

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    Klitschko and Valuev are two of the biggest ever punchers in the sport and they didn't even manage to wobble the Hayemaker. Enzo was also a tasty puncher at CW when Hayemaker finished him. Haye's only been down a couple of times and they were due to stamina issues.
     
  13. roe

    roe Guest

    Take this to the general mate, it's funnier there.
     
  14. Haye KO 1 Ali.

    Let the haters hate.
     
  15. Duffy

    Duffy Guest


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsawoiQ-0C0[/ame]


    Watch the footwork, mobility and head movement here. Now just remember this is a man in equal power, strength and punch ability as Foreman, scary really.