Joe Calzaghe and Britains top 168 lbers

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  1. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    168
     
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  2. DaveyboyEssexUK

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    lol:good
     
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  3. luke

    luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    eubank should of lost the 2nd benn fight, also the watson first fight was deffo a loss, and in the 2nd fight he was loosing and pulled a knock out dead shot from know where
     
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  4. DaveyboyEssexUK

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    Because of Watson career being cut short He`ll float between 1-5, He schooled Benn indirectly Beat Eubank in their 1st fight (at least in my eyes) and was schooling Eubank in the 2nd fight. Steve Collins has said he rated Watson higher than Eubank and Benn
     
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  5. Grant1

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    His wins were all at 160 - Middleweight.

    This is 168 - Supermiddle.
     
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  6. DaveyboyEssexUK

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    Yes his wins were @ middlewight your right but he was destroying Eubank in their second fight which was@Super Middleweight, if it were`nt for the miracle punch he may have ruled the Super Middleweight division
     
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  7. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you want to make a case for him based on one fight, that ultimately he lost, you crack on buddy.
     
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  8. DaveyboyEssexUK

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    I get your point , its just too black and white for my liking. Say the miracle punch didnt happen, what would Watson have become? A super Middlweight Champion, and his career would have continued, Just cos he only had one fight at super middleweight doesnt mean he would nt have done well and held his own @super Middle Weight.
     
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  9. rampant

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    I think its a pretty good list, Eubank, Benn, Collins could be any way round and Froch is defo in there!
     
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  10. Threetime no1

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    Fair list and the top 5 are correctly placed i think. Maybe Benn and Eubank are interchangeable for 2 + 3.
     
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  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Eubank and Calzaghe both have fantastic SMW resumes. I think this Eubank won the first Collins fight gets a bit overplayed. What rounds do you think Eubank won in that fight?
    At SMW Eubank didnt beat Benn. Its a tough one to call. But I would say Calzaghe looked overall far more impressive and I favour Calzaghes SMW resume to Eubanks.

    Rocchigiani was a good win for Eubank, but i dont think it was a better win than Kessler at SMW
    Holmes was coming off a loss and had not fought for a while and not better than the Lacy win
    Malinga had already been beaten by other decent SMWs and not a better win to me than Mitchell
    Wharton was also a good win but here mentioned in the same breath as Starie. I like Wharton and rate him, but he could be outboxed and lost to Reid who Calzaghe beat.

    It is a bit of what you like really because I expect you to jump on this post, though its not meant to prompt a big reaction
     
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  12. bailey

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    I guess you dont really know the SMW division that well
     
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  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Kessler a SMW world champ
    Lacy a SMW world champ
    Veit a SMW world champ
    Eubank a world rated former SMW world champ
    Reid a world rated former SMW world champ who looked unlucky years later against WBA/IBF SMW champ Ottke
    Woodhall a world rated former SMW world champ
    Brewer a world rated former SMW world champ
    Mitchell a world rated former SMW world champ who had just looked unlucky to many when losing a SD to Ottke mentioned above in a unification
    Not to mention beating many other top 10 rated SMWs in Starie, Manfredo, Bika, Mkertchyan who went on to beat undefeated 26-0 European champ Chanet, Sheika
     
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  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its one of those things we just wont know. Same with McClellan
     
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