Who is Greater: Hearns or Mayweather?

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  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Floyd Mayweather: 43-0
    Thomas Hearns: 61-5-1

    Floyd Mayweather-

    Elite wins: Jose Luis Castillo, Sugar Shane Mosley, Genaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales

    Strong Wins: Miguel Cotto, Oscar Delahoya, Ricky Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez, Zab Judah, Victor Ortiz, Angel Manfredy, Jesus Chavez

    Notable Losses: Some feel he lost the first fight to Castillo, others maintain he is 2-0 against the gritty Mexican.

    Thomas Hearns
    Elite Wins: Roberto Duran, Virgil Hill, Wilfred Benitez, Pipino Cuevas

    Strong Wins: Luigi Michillo, Luis Primera, Carl Willis, Fred Hutchings, Clyde Gray, Michael Olajide

    Notable Losses: Upset loss to Iran Barkley in a TKO 3, suffering the same in a crushing KO loss to Marvin Hagler. Some feel he really lost the Benitez fight.


    Wins, Head to Head

    Duran over Castillo
    Benitez over Hernandez

    Corrales win better than Cuevas
    Mosley win better than Hill
    Delahoya win better than Olajide
    Marquez win better than Primera
    Cotto win better than Michillo

    And then Floyd still has guys like Judah, Hatton, Manfredy, Chavez on his resume.
    Hearns has the top 2 wins out of the guys, with Mayweather having the deeper resume.
     
  2. kwilson71

    kwilson71 #MAYDAY Full Member

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    Huge Floyd fan, but went with Hearns, Just got to see how Floyd finishes his career before I rank him over any from Hearns,Duran, Leonard, and Hagler. Also head to head I feel like Hearns is the worse matchup in history for Floyd.
     
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    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Head to head is definitely not in Floyd's favour, but when I do head to head analysis I would rather rate them in their best weight class to get the most accurate results.

    For instance, I'd pit Floyd against the best 130 lb'ers, and Hearns against the best 147 lb'ers in head to head match ups.
     
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    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is one I was thinking about today the difference is Money has won all his big fights.I'm a Hearns fan big time but its hard to do but I take Money UD Hearns allways finds a way to lose the super fight.
     
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    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    The KO loss to Barkley doesn't sit right with me. Neither does the Benitez fight (as great as he is) I felt it was a draw or a loss for Hearns.
     
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    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Are people just going to blindly vote in favour of Hearns or give a reason?
     
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    :? Wha??? Most think he beat Leonard in the rematch. Even Leonard himself admitted they are really 1-1. Even.
     
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    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who is greater I go with Ray over the 2 and I did think Hearns beat him in the second fight but I really do think Money can out box him.
     
  9. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Leonard was pretty used at that stage though. Their first fight carries a thousand times more relevance.
     
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    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Interesting point:

    Hearns gets a ton of credit for beating Duran at 154, who was out of his best weight, but was competitive above 135 and 147.

    Mayweather doesn't get a lot of credit for beating Marquez, yet Marquez gave the second best fighter at welter and ATG Manny Pacquiao absolute hell (most felt he won) at the same weight that Mayweather beat Marquez in.

    A bit of hypocrisy there across the board for most writers.
     
  11. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And people look at the whole body of work love the hit man but when he had to shine he allways came up short.
     
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    If Mayweather finishes his career strong I would definitively put him above
     
  13. Imperial1

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    Hearns ,,Hard to find one win on Mayweathers resume that can rival Hearns win over Duran .. I mean were talking about Roberto Duran a top 25 all time great yet people want to compare that to who ? Hatton ,Gatti Marquez ? Combined they don't stack up to Duran !
     
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    :lol: Of all the names you use you combine Gatti,Hatton and Marquez.
     
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    My bad Old Oscar ,Shamba Mitchel ,Old Mosley and Miguel Cotto ..Happy :lol: