Does Calzaghe get enough respect for fighting the last 4/5 years with brittle hands?

Rating fighters is a personnal choice. Hopkins gets alot of ratings for what he did after leaving MW and for his age as a world champ, but he has trouble with fast 2 handed fighters his own size and has a style weakness, thats why he has losses. Calzaghe managed to find a way to beat all styles faced.
Fact is you cant put up a debate. You made a statement, have been asked to answer it and realised you dont have the knowledge to do so. I dont need to prop Calzaghes record, it speaks for itself and facts arent propping a record, the are facts, which is all I have to use. Learn the facts and you wont expose yourself with silly comments you cant back up

 

Here is an old post for you to look at

Eubank was training for a fight on that night against a LHW and Calzaghe for Collins, but Collins retired and 2 weeks before the fight Eubank got the offer. When you consider Eubank was a MW and SMW world champ and didnt use to make weight, like Calzaghe until just before the fights, I doubt he was drained, but people would love to find reasons why Calzaghe never lost

 

It doesn't matter what a few isolated biased Brits think. The only voice that speaks volumes is the majority, and the majority is in line on this thinking Hopkins has the better resume and is the better fighter. You can think what you want your one lone voice in the darkness in the grand scheme of things.

See statements like this^^ tell us a little something, that your looking to drag someone in so you can debate the pros and cons with them because you need to do this in order to make Joe look more favourable because his own resume is not sufficent enough. This is alone tells us how great Joe's legacy is. I find it pitiful the way people like you bust a gut trying to prop his record up.

 

Thanks, had him losing to Hopkins but whatever. Doesn't change the fact he fought the best man there and was ignored in the States until he fought Lacy who he pummeled.

So you would say that Calzaghe over Eubank was a better win than Ward over Kessler? Sounds like it and will rewatch both fights soon. Both were underdogs and rised to the occassion. BTW forgot Eubank fought Thompson first. Gave two great showings in close fights(or at least one of them were close despite the injury in the rematch). Thanks for clearing up that Eubank wasn't shot. Famous misconception. Clearly past prime but a solid win say better than Jones which was a cherry on top late in Zaghes career.

 

Don't agure with Bailey. He will boxrec the **** out of you.

It is possible to paint a picture of Joe as one of the greatest to put on the gloves, and Bailey does that better than anybody. He is the #1 supporter of his fighter on ESB.

It is also possible to paint a picture of Joe as a slapping fraud whose stoppages were dubious at best. The youtube videos do that.

Sadly, the truth about Joe lies somewhere in the middle, but Joe's nuthuggers have made a reasonable assesment of him impossible on these boards.

 

So now you waffle and try and duck the fact you couldnt back up your own statements. You cant debate that he beat reigning world champs was the man of a division. If you want to look at resumes at SMW that dont look all that great, just look at Toneys

 

Cal Slappy gets zero respect. He hid for decades and just when his division presented him a handful of SUPER fights? He ran for the hills.

Shoulda...
Woulda...
Coulda...
But DIDN'T!

Sums up his whole career!

 

Can you tell me why and how Hopkins has the better resume?

Hopkins has longevity, so I don't need that point explained

 

I just give the facts. Its good you are trying to defend your boy, but he is doing a fine job of being a ducker on his own.
I just give straight facts about the 168lb division. My favourite since Leonard/Hearns unification and have follwed the division closely since. Calzaghe at 168lbs clearly has a very good resume and people who dont know the division try and comment on things they know little of

 

Who did he hide from and what Super fights are you going on about.
I bet you cant answer

 

He makes statements he cant back up, so dont expect a sensible answer.

 

I have nothing to back up. I hold the same opinion as the majority . You have it wrong not the rest of us. I could get into it but I dont have my argument saved to document to readily post as and when I make it my daily routine to try and prop his resume up cause it doesn't stack up itself.


You can run with what ever perception you want. Yours is a minority view that will always be debunked by the majority who think Hokins was a greater fighter and that Joe has major questions marks about his resume. We could ALL debate with you, but what's the point? Its been done to death and you people still cant fudge perception to make Joe a better fighter in the mind of majority of fans. If you wanna keep doing this kind of thing for small mercies though, so be it. Everyone else can sit back and smirk whist you make a show of yourself.

 

Why deflect the subject? We asked you questions, if you can't answer them then just say so. Hopkins has major question marks on his legacy, so do most,if not all fighters

 

I could care less about defending him. You present facts the same way a politician does and with the zeal of a religious figure.

When using boxrec you point to his KO percentage. When faced with the KO Specialist videos you say he had bad hands and it's not his fault he had such little power.

Both are facts, you just use the ones that fit your agenda.