Mayweather - Cotto: PPV 1.5 million buys 94 revenue

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  1. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I remember arum saying they were 1.3 or something like that, fat dan said that was a lie and they were really 1.2.

    Philippe (Montreal)

    Were the official Pacquiao vs Mosley PPV numbers ever released? All there seems to be is an estimate from Arum that it would be over 1.3 million once all was counted, but nothing official.
    Dan Rafael (1:02 PM)

    No, there was never an "official" announcement but Arum said he thought it could reach 1.3 million. The real number, from what I am told, is a little below that in the 1.2s, which is still tremendous.
     
  2. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Mayweather beating Pacquiao in PPV numbers with every common opponent says he has more drawing power.
     
  3. COTTO made more than Floyd after Floyd paid GBP, IRS, LEN, SCHAEFER , AL, Corner, GYM, Lawyers.
     
  4. macho_grande

    macho_grande "I'll never get over" Full Member

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    I thought it would be impossible for the *******s to troll this thread given the numbers.

    How ****ing wrong was I?
     
  5. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    #TheMoneyTeam
     
  6. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Bladegunner, Check it. :deal

    Floyd has done 8.52 million of those buys in his last six fights alone.
     
  7. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    While that was a little funny, wouldn't Cotto have to pay the same things?
     
  8. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    PPVs always existed and will forever remain. These fighters want something for putting their lives on the line to entertain the public.
     
  9. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Morales, Canelo, Ortiz > Margarito

    hahaha shot down again:rofl
     
  10. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The more interesting number that counts is the Total Revenue.

    I would think they would look at how much $$$$$$$$$$ it generated because Tickets and PPV costs vary.



    Either way, forget the competition. It only hurts the fans because neither may budge at the table.
     
  11. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Read this, you will see the bigger picture.

    o explain the business model, Schaeffer starts with a pie. A little more than half goes to the distributors (Time Warner, DirecTV, etc.). The balance goes to the network, HBO or Showtime, which takes its distribution fees and hands the rest to the promoters.

    In this case, Golden Boy has one contract with HBO and another with Mayweather Promotions. But the money, less what distributors and networks take, is under Mayweather’s control; normally the promoter would control it.

    That pie is only part of the total revenue, the pay-per-view TV part. To illustrate the other revenue streams, Schaefer pulled a piece of paper from his pocket, a spreadsheet written in 6-point typeface. Drawn out, Schaefer said it would take up two chalkboards, but on the sheet in his pocket, it was boiled down to a formula for how much Mayweather would earn, based on how many people bought the fight and what the other revenue streams brought in.

    Those streams include foreign sales for a fight broadcast in 168 territories; closed-circuit revenues (in 2,000 or so bars and restaurants nationwide, in theaters and in rooms at Las Vegas casinos); site revenue (ticket sales, merchandise); and sponsorships. Most boxers would see little, if any, of that money, whereas, Schaefer said: “All revenues here are Mayweather revenues. He gets part of everything.”

    Roger Federer does not make money off the sales of strawberries and cream at Wimbledon, nor does Derek Jeter’s contract include the Yankees’ TV contract in Asia. Mayweather has devised an altogether different model for marquee athletes.

    But, under this model, the expenses are Mayweather expenses, too, including advertising (radio spots, print ads, TV commercials), publicity (press tours, news conferences), sanctioning fees, legal contracts and insurance. For a fight of this magnitude, Schaefer said the expenses would run about $10 million.

    First, Mayweather will write himself a check this week in the neighborhood of $25 million. This is similar, in concept, to the guaranteed money that other fighters receive from their promoters, but the check is much larger. Besides Mayweather, only Manny Pacquiao would command that much. What Mayweather earns in addition depends on the success of the event.

    If 1.4 million or 1.5 million fans buy the fight — which is expected — Mayweather will make about $40 million, Schaefer said.

    For comparison, consider Pacquiao. For his coming November fight, Top Rank has guaranteed $22 million and a percentage of other revenue for a total of $30 million, said Bob Arum, chairman of Top Rank. If the fight is canceled because of a natural disaster, for example, Pacquiao will still make $22 million, whereas Mayweather would stand to lose much of his total earnings.

    Because Mayweather has averaged about 1.5 million pay-per-view buys in his last four fights, and because no natural disaster has wiped out any boxing event in recent memory, he considers his risk quite low. Even Arum, Mayweather’s stated nemesis, conceded “there’s no loss, only profit.” He added: “In the end, it may be less than the guarantee, but it’s all profit.”

    Arum and others, however, believe that there is value in promotion and that Mayweather would make even more if he ceded total control. Mayweather disagrees, and even says the formula can be duplicated by other fighters — for a fee, of course.

    “That’s going to cost you!” he said.
     
  12. Caelum

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    Yeah, but how much is to much ?

    I'm all about getting as much as you can but from a fans perspective, it sucks. At least for the ones that can't afford it. But who cares about them. F-em. there are still fans that can which is obvious from the Money generated. I guess that's how it works.
    You sell to those that can buy. Kinda like Ferrari.
    So I'm looking at it from different sides.


    And of course, if you want to get down to it...I think some don't want to hear about risking their lives when many others do for a lot less....like the Military personal that are risking their lives. It's the same when these athletes complain about how they have to feed their kids.
    However, yes, on the other side, if you could do it you probably would. And "exceptional talent" that is liked by the people get rewarded for a cost they put on it....like "Artists" do.
     
  13. turbotime

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    Mayweather now holds spots in the #1 and #2 BIGGEST NON-HEAVYWEIGHT PPV EVENTS IN BOXING HISTORY.

    I would have never ever saw this coming, all those years ago.
     
  14. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bob cares about money more than some sense of pride..money is the only master that man serves. He'll budge to 55/45 when he see the money on the table....but the $40million flat floyd offer??? Hahhahaa thats just a huge DUCK!
     
  15. randomwalk

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    Not exactly. Stardom and popularity has an arc to it. Pacquiao didn't really become a superstar until his Hoya-Hatton-Cotto fights. Mayweather was already the cash cow at that point. Fact is, they are currently doing similar numbers everytime out. Floyd probably deserves a larger cut because I do believe he does slightly better numbers, but giving Manny no PPV cut is ridiculous. Take the difference in average revenue between the two and give that to Floyd.