The top 2 fighters of the last 25 years are.....

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  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Total fights 116
    Wins 107
    Wins by KO 89
    Losses 6
    Draws 2

    A peak record of 87-0
    25 years as a pro
    Most title fights in boxing history (37)
    Most title fight victories in boxing history (31)
    Most title defences by knockout in boxing history (21) (tied with Joe Louis)
    Longest undefeated streak in boxing history (13 years)
    Beat Meldrick Taylor in the fight of the decade (1990s)

    Up there with the best that ever boxed as far as... Chin, determination, left hook, straight right, combination punching & dominance over a long period.


    http://youtu.be/d5XwwI2nEKE


    The question should be, how the hell could you not include Chavez ?
     
    Bill Butcher, May 12, 2012
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  2. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I agree that floyd & pac ducking each other is far worse than Roy & B-Hop, which is why I rarely mention it these days... its still a little black mark but the main reason is that I just don`t think RJJ or B-Hop are above Chavez & Whitaker, everything considered.
     
    Bill Butcher, May 12, 2012
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  3. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Which is a reasonable take for sure, i'd rate them above Hopkins but i'd take Jones above Chavez and maybe Whitaker too, not sure on that one. I don't have any issues with anyone having it the other way.

    When Mayweather and Pac are done they will likely be in and around that discussion with the 4 mentioned above IMO, at the moment i wouldn't really rate them as there are too many unanswered questions with what may happen in their careers.
     
    stevebhoy87, May 12, 2012
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  4. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Mmmmm :think

    Your right, we still get the best of Chavez but we miss out entirely on his 130 lb reign which is a big part of his career.... if we are talking greatness aka an entire career then yes, he definitely loses points... if we`re talking best as in how good they were in the ring then it still stands because his peak was dead on 1987.

    :good
     
    Bill Butcher, May 12, 2012
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  5. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Yep, I agree, the winner of fmj & pac will definitely be there or thereabouts... but if they don`t fight each other or fight way past their best then its not unfair to say they don`t deserve to be mentioned with these guys.
     
    Bill Butcher, May 12, 2012
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  6. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If we're talking how good they were in the ring, then Messers Jones and Mayweather have been more dominant in my eyes.

    Chavez was also old very quickly, most likely due to how many fights he had. What would you consider his defining fight? Rosario?
     
    SJS19, May 12, 2012
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  7. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Pernell + Mayweather/Pacquiao
     
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  8. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Sweet Pea for sure. Roy Jones shouldnt be allowed in this list
     
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