Roy Jones vs Calzaghe at their peaks. Objectively tell me...

When Jones was dropped by Del Valle he was dropped and hurt and having to hang on. Calzaghe was never once needing to hang on to survive in his career

 

Obviously older but you havent been able to show me these vast differences which I knew you would struggle to do.
So how old was G Johnson when he lost to Omar Sheika and how old was he when he took Froch to a MD? Much more in it than Jones there

 

I can see Jones taking a little bit to figure Calzaghe out. Joe would advance cagily, feinting all the while, as Jones puts his parrying guard up and circles. Eventually, Jones starts timing him with the right hand, getting shots in to the body before circling, and racking up points in the mid rounds. After hurting Calzaghe with a counter-bomb late, I see Jones going for the stoppage. I see Joe doing better than most, but ultimately getting hit much more than he lands, and paying for it.

Or, he just drops and stops him in the first like he looked like he could have in their actual fight.

 

Having to hang on You really need to take this act on the road ..I understand you don't like Jones but making **** up is rediculous .But hey if you don't think he was hurt against Jones fine..The rest of the world will beleive what they saw .

 

first of all you need to be clear as to when you believe that each fighters prime was?

you also need to acknowledge that the 1st time roy was ever drug tested in his professional career he was found to have 6 times the acceptable upper range of testosterone in his system, so are the fighters in this fight

juiced roy (pre hall) v juiced calzaghe (something we would have to imagine)

or

clean roy (post hall) v clean calzaghe (all his carear)

 

So you cant answer then when given videos to comment on. I havent said he might not have been hurt, but he wasnt so hurt that he was nearly gone or so hurt he was having to hang on like Jones was against Del Valle where Jones was far more hurt. Are you so silly to believe because a fighter got knocked down in one fight that they will in every fight? Hopkins was put down twice by Pascal when they first fought but didnt go down at all in the rematch. So your point is lame. Look at how Marquez went down 4 times to Pac in 2 fights yet didnt go down at all in their third fight when much older. Get it now atsch.
What has been made up?
Now can you say any more than just age with those videos because remember Calzaghe was closer to the end of his career than Jones was

 

Errr... watching Calzaghe since about three or four fights before eubank.

/and let's be clear, Calzaghe completely overhauled his style because of his hand problems. JC was essentially a puncher until about 2001-03 (would have to YouTubve to check exactly). He changed his style and Lacy fight represents about the peak of where he was with the style and still very prime physically.

Jones's Hill performance was exceptional. Not his best win, but the performance was extraordinarily good against a world class operator.

and coming off a loss doesn't make you crud, particularly a borderline HoFer like Hill.

Don't accuse me of knowing cr*p all when you come up with sh*te like that.

 

Good analysis that gives both fighters credit :good

Roy did have good ring smarts which maybe I didn't give him the proper credit for. Joe didn't have the most aesthetically pleasing styles, but he had a phenomenal ring IQ and would make you fight his fight.

By the way SJS, who do you think will win in Froch v Bute?

 

Roy hurts him enough early to make Joe stop coming after him, then potshots and lets him survive to lose a lopsided decision. If Joe keeps coming, he gets stopped, it's basically up to him. Nothing unusual or difficult for a prime RJJ in this fight at all, he just does what he always did just as easily as he always did it. Calslappy isn't any kind of special obstacle for prime SMW RJJ.

 

Nah because with you this will go on all day ..If you think Jones was the same fighter in the Calzaghe fight than the Hall fight than there is nothing left to say than you really don't know **** about boxing :good

 

what an absolutely ridiculous statement

1 - you know full well jones knocked calzaghe down with an illegal forearm

2 - in what way was calzaghe hurt anymore than any of his other 3 knockdowns?
- did calzaghe wobble around the ring?
- did calzaghe grab hold of jones to see the round out?

 

GImperial1 is clearly a troll and a waste of time, who makes useless statements which he can't back up, then runs away. On a forum, of course you can state what you like, but you have to back it up to gain credibility, and this goon never does.

 

atsch So you answer to everything else except the parts I said you wouldnt be able to answer in explaining how different Jones was in the fight he failed a test to against Hall than to Calzaghe, where I explained how Calzaghe was faster had more ring generalship and could match Jones for speed. You see I said people like you would only answer this way because I knew you wouldnt be able to put up a sensible debate