USADA claim that Floyd and Cotto both Went Through CIR Blood Tests

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  1. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What?
     
  2. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Nevermind.

    Anyways, companies are working to further testing protocols to test for new types of steroids or enhancements, such as HGH. Not too worried about Conte at the mo', since he didn't even know the USADA protocol. So how could he possibly beat it?
     
  3. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    I have no idea how many they've let walk away. Why don't you enlighten us. From what I understand EPO testing can be very tricky and is much less reliable than steroid testing, so it doesn't surprise me that some guys have gotten away with that on a technicality (which still has nothing to do with this particular case). Also, how many do you think the NSAC has let walk away with their garbage testing protocol? They're still calling a 6:1 T/E ratio "acceptable" FFS, and based on what I've read they only follow up with a CIR test in the event that an athlete's T/E ratio comes in over that ridiculously high threshold. Clearly USADA's testing protocol is far more effective than those of any of the state athletic commissions, is it not?
     
  4. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh yeah, nothing to worry about regarding Conte. It's very clear he will just stay ignorant of any new methods and absolutely wont find ways to beat them. Because he's not that kind of guy. Everything is totally taken care of.

    :lol::patsch:lol::rofl
     
  5. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Seemed pretty ignorant in the article just now, where he got proved wrong.
     
  6. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Yes, it is far more effective. But that doesn't mean it is without it's flaws.

    http://steroidreport.com/2008/04/04/stupidity-and-mistakes-of-the-anti-doping-crusade/

    The IRMS is an instrument that requires very precise controls of operation. The results of an IRMS is only as good as the laboratory performing the tests. Inexperienced laboratory personnel who cannot follow sequential steps in testing cannot be expected to arrive at the correct results. A valid IRMS is also only as good as the science behind the tests. A valid IRMS is only as good as the criteria required in WADA technical documents, by international standards, and by standardized criteria as to constitutes a positive result. WADA has failed in all these areas.
    One hundred years from now will the scientists of the future shake their heads in amazement at our ignorance. Will they abhor the stupidity and mistakes of the anti-doping crusade? Will they be forced to restore the honor to “fallen” athletes?
     
  7. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Far more effective is certainly better than the NSAC. It's what boxing has needed for a long time. Nothing is ever 100% obviously but we shouldn't let absolute perfection get in the way of good work and evolution.
     
  8. Cormega

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    Because they're clearly far more proficient at catching drug cheats than any of the state commissions are or even care to be.
     
  9. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    I don't see anyone here arguing that it is.
     
  10. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Why are they so against this?
     
  11. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    :deal
     
  12. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Because Floyd demanded it. It's really just that simple.
     
  13. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Should have noticed canes avatar :-(
     
  14. DE100

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    Some of these people (certain posters on here, and fans in other places) and certain writers are so transparent, at the slightest inkling that there might be a better test they all of sudden come out the woodwork, pushing for better testing like they never have this whole time Mayweather has been pushing the issue, cause they think it diminishes Mayweather to pump this up.
     
  15. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    are you talking about the guys over at maxboxing? Trust me, I've known one for a long time, and NOTHING he is doing with all his research on better testing, is done without a biased agenda againts Mayweather. He hates Floyd