Roy Jones vs Calzaghe at their peaks. Objectively tell me...

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  1. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's because you're not acquainted with the facts.
     
  2. Flexe

    Flexe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like Calzaghe, but let's be honest here, a shot Roy Jones managed to put Calzaghe on the canvas, had this been a prime Jones, he'd have probably followed up, knocked him out.

    Calzaghe could make a competitive fight for 5 rounds but after that Jones takes over. Jones was that good in his prime (let's not forget).
     
  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Prime for prime, both at 168, it would be one of Jones' toughest fights.

    Calzaghe would be the fastest opponent Roy had faced. and the the best chin.

    Roy would lose a round or two early, but make the necessary adjustments.

    8-4 or 9-3 in Roy's favour.
     
  4. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe never found his ceiling as a fighter, it's a shame because I think his H2H ability far out shines his resume.
     
  5. lufcrazy

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    Jones wins a massive decision. Maybe dropping 3 rounds maximum.
     
  6. AnotherFan

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    Sounds like a generous opinion. I view him as an overachiever. Bascily, I think he made it as far as he could. What makes you think his H2H abillty was so good? If you cant be bothered to write a novel about it feel free to speak in general terms.
     
  7. AnotherFan

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    Calzaghe roids up, improves his slaprate and power and spanks Roy Jones to hell :bbb"I saw eight slaps coming at me at the same time, and had no clue which one to counter", a redfaced Jones comments after the fight.
     
  8. SJS19

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    No novel tonight :lol:

    1. Some guys are born to win. Calzaghe did just that. Timothy Bradley is another.

    2. His physical attributes are under rated. His lack of power is emphasized yet his speed and punching fluidity are not.

    3. Mentally he was very strong. If you knocked him down, he got up. If he broke his hand, he kept hitting you with it.

    4. He adjusted very well. A very under rated Ring IQ.

    5. Big fights were a stage to prove a point for JC, never underestimate just how motivating this can be.

    6. I can't name a fighter with better stamina. Prime Paul Williams Included.
     
  9. bailey

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    Very amusing but do you think because a KD happend in one fight that it would in any other :patsch:lol:? So Would Jones have been KOd by Del Valle then because Jones was far more hurt against Del Valle than Calzaghe ever was.
    Malinga wasnt British and had lost to Benn and Eubank before beating Benn by SD in a rematch.
    I doubt you have seen Malingas fight with Benn because if you had, you would know that Reid just didnt do anything that night and there was nothing decisive at all. Still you forget that Calzaghe beat Eubank and Woodhall who both beat Malinga oh yeah and Jones as well who beat Malinga :yep.
    With Reid Ask yourself this. How could you not score rounds 2, 3, 4,7, 8 (
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    ), 12 to Calzaghe? Remember Reid had a point deducted also.

    I thought like 2 judges that Calzaghe was a clear winner and except for McCrory who scored a draw and later seemed to agree all of the other studio guest scored wide for Calzaghe including Mcguigan and Eubank. I also think damaged handed (damaged his hand in round 4) Calzaghe won and felt he won rounds 1, 9 (Reid did land the punch of the night in round 9 though) & 11.

    Good away win for Calzaghe

    Still I guess with your logic De La Hoya beat Mayweather because he won on one of the cards.

    Just a shame Jones didnt want to fight Calzaghe
     
  10. Loudon

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    I'm good mate thanks.

    As I've said in previous posts, I think if the opportunity had've presented itself to Joe, I think he would have taken the fight. But I don't believe they genuinlely chased it. Collins got in the ring post fight and was desperate to fight Roy. Joe mentioning roy's name isn't really calling him out.

    How on earth could frank have made that fight when joe wouldn't travel and he wasn't a big name. Roy was unifying the 175 division, while Joe was at home at super middle. Roy was never going to come to the U.K. To fight Joe. It would have been a huge fight over here, but it wouldn't have been to the rest if the World. Roy was P4P champ, Joe wasn't a big enough fight to get him to come over.

    What would Roy have gotten out of it? He would have had to have come down in weight to fight for a version of the title that he'd given up. He wasn't interested in fighting at super middle. He could have stayed there if he'd have wanted. Joe was a great fighter, but in and around 2001, he didn't bring anything to the table. If he'd have built up a fan base in the States, the fight could have been huge.

    I just can't see how Frank tried to get Joe the fight. Fair enough he might have made a few phone calls, but if they're in different Countries, in different weight classes, with no common opponents, it was a non starter. Joe had blown his chance to impress the U.S. fans in his only televised fight against Thornberry.

    The only way that fight could have been made, is if Joe had've gone over and showcased his talents. For whatever reason he didn't. So, I just can't see how genuinely chased a fight.

    Great debate.

    Regards, Loudon.
     
  11. bailey

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  12. Auracle21

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    Jones in a semi competitive fight but he is far too skilled, fast, and powerful for Calzaghe. 10-2, 11-1.
     
  13. Loudon

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  14. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My question was what would happen if they fought. Not who ducked who.
     
  15. bailey

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