Sugar Ray as an Amateur

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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

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    The Cuban southpaw he beat in the Olympic final was an absolute beast. He went on to beat Mugabi at the next games for Gold.
     
  2. bman100

    bman100 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm guessing most dont know, It was a common myth that hascup proved wrong. I guess it sounds better to say he had no losses but then losing to Billy Graham has no shame in it, its a shame they never fought as pros. youre right though way too many people still say he had no losses as an amateur.
     
  3. stevebhoy87

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    Firstly he's clearly not the finished article at this point for me, as good as he is in that footage he's a little too reckless. You can see with the footage we have of him from the late 40s, early 50s he's far more controlled in the ring, picking his time when to explode into action.

    The first thing that stands out to me there is that every single punch he's throwing is done so with mean intentions. He's looking to cause damage and get that knock out punch at any stage. His range of punching for someone just turned 19 is scary, putting combinations together that a veteran would struggle to do.

    The way he gets leverage into the punches is top notch, and the natural speed is of course there which would be a key component in his skillset when he turned professional. He's already as dangerous an attacking force as this stage as almost anything you'll see, but he as i said above became more controlled and polished with experience.
     
  4. bman100

    bman100 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well he is only fighting 3 round fights so you'd expect aggression to increase over a shorter distance if you want to KO the guy..I think Robinson did want to KO him.:lol:

    but yeah you get less time to wear him down as sugar did with body shots and left hooks later in his career in three round fights so im not surprised ray was as reckless as he way. he was also very angry thet he himself was knocked down earlier im guessing.
     
  5. Hands of Iron

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    Definitely.

    http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/sugrob.htm
    http://coxscorner.tripod.com/robinson.html
    http://espn.go.com/sportscentury/features/00016440.html
    http://www.legacy.com/ns/news-story.aspx?t=sugar-ray-robinson--the-worlds-best-fighter&id=336
    http://www.champsuk.com/i-1279/rare...ercity-golden-gloves-amateur-programme--.html
     
  6. DrX

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    after seeing all the footage of him, no way would he beat floyd like everybody say
     
  7. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I AGREE. Ray Robinson wouldn't beat Floyd , He'd kill him...
     
  8. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You mean Floyd Patterson ?
    Well, I agree, SRR wouldn´t beat Patterson.....
     
  9. Flea Man

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    **** we're talking about Robbo :patsch

    Well, as a lightweight in the golden gloves he looked sloppy but showed incredible potential, natural athleticism and fighting instinct, super fast hands and clout. Growing into his physique he mastered his style.
     
  10. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    :lol:

    I couldn't tell if you were being a smart ass or just jumped into the topic genuinely thinking it was about Leonard.
     
  11. TartanSoldier

    TartanSoldier Barnburner. Full Member

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    I was ready to post Leonard's first pro fight.
     
  12. Hands of Iron

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    What's up, Barnburner?

    Are people really beginning to think of SRL first these days when 'Sugar Ray' is mentioned? :-(
     
  13. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Those feet are just amazing. The poise he had in positioning his feet in balance while moving and turning into his punches always impresses me and stands out more than most of his attributes.
     
  14. bman100

    bman100 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wouldnt say Ray looked sloppy, his combos impress me most, he seems to use controlled aggression, knowing what punches to throw. but leaping in with left hooks the way he did wouldnt be the best thing to do in a fight. he just got away with it.
     
  15. TartanSoldier

    TartanSoldier Barnburner. Full Member

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    I guess so. :(