Floyd's 40 million offer doesn't seem so bad now.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tliang1000, May 14, 2012.


  1. theboss

    theboss Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :smoke Part of those numbers are in fact related to how he would look against a common oponent of PAC . Fact is the FLOYD factor and the PAC factor feed off each other . :good
     
  2. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    I gave Manny the benefit of the doubt in my projection. I used 1,300,000 PPV buys with Mosley. Not the real 1,150,000, so that these *******s don't come up with every excuse in the book to show me why I'm wrong.

    In my post, I took away from Floyd, while adding for Manny, just to make sure it's fair.:thumbsup
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    PBF is the bigger draw period end of discussion. 40 million is more than fair.
     
  4. kwilson71

    kwilson71 #MAYDAY Full Member

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    :deal
     
  5. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Was it you who told Floyd to offer Manny 40 million?:yep
     
  6. kwilson71

    kwilson71 #MAYDAY Full Member

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    I do think Floyd should let up a little bit in give Manny a SMALL cut of the ppv revenue. But the 40 mil guaranteed is fair imo
     
  7. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    :yep

    :good

    I believe the $40,000,000 offer came from Haymon, Ellerbe, and GBP looking into public records as to what kind of money Manny makes, and what kind of revenue and PPV numbers he does.

    I believe they (Oscar, Richard, Al) project the fighters to end up splitting $100,000,000-$105,000,000, which is very fair based on Oscar and Floyds split of $79,000,000.

    Everything I am using in my analysis, I'm sure Oscar and Richard and Al already know, thus why they really do feel the offer was a generous one.
     
  8. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    To add-If you go back to the first negotiations, where 50/50 was agreed upon, Pac already had his career high payday of $25,000,000 and Floyd only had a career high at the time, of $26,200,000 with Oscar, thus 50/50 WAS fair. Floyd had not produced the numbers he ended up producing for Mosley, Ortiz, and Cotto.

    This strengthens Richard's statement he gave to Jim in The Fight Game...Jim said something along the lines of 50/50 was fair in the first negotiations, why is it not fair now? Richard responded with something along the lines (not exact *******s) of, Mayweather has grown since then...and he has.

    They should do what Richard said and have an accounting firm look at the purse splits, PPV numbers, and revenue. This would not hurt anything and be PRODUCTIVE in making the fight. The only problem with I see in that, is that ARUM WILL HAVE HIS POSITION EXPOSED and he wants to CONTINUE TO FOOL THE PUBLIC.
     
  9. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    3mil ppv buy at 60=180mil hbo takes half and theres 90mil left.

    ppv alone, floyd comes out ahead.

    then there's gate receipt, ad sales, international ppv and tv right sales, all would go to floyd.

    is that at all more than fair...or even close to fair??

    plus arum will take some share from pac since what floyd seems to be suggesting is that this fight will be floyd/gbp show.

    again...40 mil is fair???
     
  10. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Don't you know it was Canelo that drew these PPV numbers though?
     
  11. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Arum taking Pac's share is not relevant..That is on Pacquiao..What the fighters payout after they profit is on them and whatever contracts they have.

    Go look at my post...to add, Oscar was guarantee'd $23,300,000 with Floyd and Floyd was guarantee'd $10,000,000 with Oscar. Of the $135,000,000 (approx) in revenue...Oscar took $29,500,000 of that and Floyd took $16,200,000 of that.

    So your post is incorrect as your data is flawed.:deal You don't understand how all this works do you?:patsch
     
  12. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Good stuff!:rofl:good
     
  13. Hecdog

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    We need to put all these money split issues to rest. Bob Arum had the best idea. Both Manny and Floyd get 45% each. The WINNER gets the remaining 10%. This is a fair opportunity for both guys. This isn't about money because both of these guys have more money than they will ever spend, so Floyd should stop his bull**** excuses regarding money. He has plenty of it and will continue to earn plenty more regardless if they fight or not so throw that bull**** out the window. The Arum offer is perfect and there should be no problem. Manny has already agreed on the drug testing stuff that Floyd is afraid of. Next will be the ring size, who enters the ring first, what color trunks they can wear, who gets to eat breakfast first, who gets to shower first and so on with his bull****. Mayweather needs to sit his ass down and sign the damn contract. I wonder what Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Hagler, Holmes, Tyson and all the other greats would have done? Hmm..they would have signed in a split second and than taken on the so called pound for pound best fighter in the world, o course those guys are real fighters and never backed down from anyone. They fought the best, which is so cowardly and humiliating for Mayweather not to do. And now that Cotto exposed him, he's never going to fight Manny. Maybe his jail time will change his mind, but I doubt that. Once a coward always a coward. He should learn from his uncle Roger. He fought everyone regardless if he won or lost, but he had courage and guts to take on even the great Julio Cesar Chavez and the great Pernell Whitaker. They didn't concern themselves with all the excuses Mayweather is coming up with. Sign the contract you coward!:scaredas::scaredas::scaredas::scaredas::scaredas::scaredas::scaredas::scaredas::scaredas::scaredas:
     
  14. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought Floyd just want the PPV revenue... i don't know about the gate as well.
     
  15. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well of course Arum wants 50/50. He want that piece of pie too. and as for the other stuff you made up... i didn't read but skimmed once i see two false statements.