Floyd's 40 million offer doesn't seem so bad now.

Another flawed post with invalid information.atsch

 

That seems the most reasonable way to handle the split.

 

Chris Mannix is an idiot. According to the figures he threw out there, Mayweather's fights are averaging $60M per fight in PPV revenue, compared to $35M per fight for Pacquiao. Somehow he thinks those numbers are comparable and equate to a 50/50 split. Mayweather is producing higher gates , and produces more ppv buys despite charging more for the PPV.

 

what are you talking about?

floyd's offer is a flat fee or guarantee of 40 mil to pac with no upside.

the leftover of a 3mil ppv after pac is paid is more than pac's flat fee. this is how ridiculous this offer is.

then the gate receipt, ad sales, international ppv buys and tv right sales...plus if they could get a site fee which would all then goes to floyd.

 

In short, Pac's star power is what is getting him a crazy guarantee which is 40mil. Cotto is the 3rd highest draw and he only got 8mil guaranteed.

If Pac got 24mil guaranteed and got a 50/50 split and Mayweather took 40mil guaranteed and they split 100mil. There would be 36mil left to split Pac would take home 42 and Mayweather would take home 58.

 

Filling up Texas Stadium doesn't mean much if it results in 4 million dollars less in gate than the MGM.

 

yeah, if.

 

Pac is seeing his upside in the 40mil guaranteed. Nobody gets offered 40mil guaranteed. Cotto just got 8mil guaranteed. Mayweather took 32mil guaranteed in that fight, Hoya took 23mil guaranteed.

Offering 20-25mil guaranteed and 50-50split upside isn't going to be much more then 40mil guaranteed. Because both fighters are going to take high guarantees which is going to eat up majority of the rev.

 

See the big picture. He made a simple point really....labor economics. If you're worth more than what is being offered, you hold out for more. This isn't a question of who get's the lion's share, it is a question of getting paid what you put in.

BTW---In terms of #'s, he did say this "...More importantly, Mayweather and Pacquiao are comparable draws now. Mayweather-Cotto did 1.5 million buys; according to a source, Pacquiao's November win over Juan Manuel Marquez did 1.25 million...."...once again, you're getting caught up with numbers that don't depict the current reality.

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Both Floyd and Pacquiao achieved their "superstar" status after fighting DLH. Take that fight out of the equation. With both fighters being the definitive A side since then, Floyd has been a marginally better single fight draw than Pacquiao. That said, Floyd also only fights once a year, Pacquiao fights twice, so per year Pacquiao has more PPV buys overall. So it depends on what you value more as a "draw" there. Both camps have a case. Ultimately though, Floyd's offer of 40 million to Pacquiao with no PPV shares in what would likely be the biggest PPV fight ever is a non-starter, and Floyd knows that. The only way Pacquiao would ever accept that offer would be if he takes a loss, in which case Floyd would likely drop the offer anyway.

 

#1 the fight isn't going to do 3 million PPV buys...

#2 3 million buys at $65 is 195 million, 50% going to HBO/PPV distributors, leaves 97.5 million...40 million to Manny...leaves 57.5 million. Where in the **** do you get your idiotic estimates?

 

He did that fighting a guy nobody in the mainstream even knows about or cares about, do you think Mayweather vs Clottey at Cowboy stadium will do the same? or out do those numbers?

Somehow I think you will argue it will, but I out right disagree to that..

 

atsch:roll:

Yeah.... yeah... yeah... great and all... So why didn't Mayweather just offer the 60/40 split? Instead of a STATIC figure of $40 million.

But he didn't do that did he, as if it's ****ing business who Pacquiao uses as his promoter... It's just another fake straw-man excuse... :-hat

 

post #24.

..and it's always irritating when somebody jumps into a conversation without knowing or hearing previous statements.

 

"Yeah if"...you stupid ****, your lack of insight and general knowledge makes me want to ****ing puke.

Manny vs Clottey...

The fight was rewarded with a paid crowd of 36,371 and a gate of $6,359,985, according to post-fight tax reports filed with Texas boxing regulators. Counting complimentary tickets delivered to sponsors, media outlets and others, the Dallas fight attracted 41,843, well short of the 50,994 that was previously announced, but still an epic number for boxing. In addition, the bout drew 700,000 pay-per-view buys and earned $35.3 million in domestic revenue.

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/...0100614/SBJ-In-Depth/Boxings-Grand-Stage.aspx

Mayweather vs Cotto...

According to the Nevada State Athletic Commission, Mayweather-Cotto also had the ninth-biggest gate in state history, generating $12,000,150 from 14,612 tickets sold.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7919965/floyd-mayweather-miguel-cotto-rakes-94m-ppv-sales