Floyd's 40 million offer doesn't seem so bad now.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tliang1000, May 14, 2012.


  1. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    It would be like me saying "oh if you can't include De La Hoya then you can't include Marquez, because Pacquiao Marquez 3 took 7 years to build, where as Mayweather Marquez only took 5 months to build."

    To add-In reality Oscar and Richard and Al will use both De La Hoya numbers.
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Ticket sales aren't half as important as PPV buys. It's the PPV buys that counts the most during negotiations. Ticket sales will always sell easy in a huge stadium filled with $25 seats like the Clottey fight was.
     
  3. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Because they don't get into the logistics of it. Everyone and their mama has read that article. He uses total ppv numbers...in this case it has only take Floyd 9 ppv's to do what Pac has done in 15 PPV's (300,000 less).

    Also, Floyd has produced more revenue in his 9 fights, to Pac's 15 PPV fights.
     
  4. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd thinks GBP is on his side...but they are gonna force this fight on him.
    Once shaefer bring in the accounting firm theyre gonna come back with a deal that is essentially 53-47 and im sure GBP will make those numbers public to force floyd's hand and make the fight....at the end of the day oscar and schaeffer wanna get paid and see this fight go off.
     
  5. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Not really...They are gonna look along the lines of something like 63-37 in favor of Floyd.

    Your not getting that Floyd produces more revenue in a fight..this is what it is..

    Why do you think Arum is so hesitant to not do this BRILLIANT idea?
    Richard and Oscar are calling Arum's bluff and Arum is doing everything possible to NOT BE PRODUCTIVE IN MAKING THE FIGHT.:deal
     
  6. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    Which is, at the end of the day, ALL that really matters. The Bottom Line.

    Floyd is the bigger draw and the revenue his fights have generated proves as much.

    Pacquiao needs to take the $40 mil....
     
  7. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ehh i highly doubt that...If you look at what each is worth over their last five fights or so (because that's a accurate reflection of what they are drawing TODAY) the numbers are very slightly in floyds favor. Meaning the revenue is slightly in his favor.

    if you wanna go back 14 fights to the days of pac and morales at 126 of course that will skew the revenues. Let's look at what they've done per fight over the last two or three years. Its about the same.
     
  8. NeckBreaknAiken

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    C'mon Bazook. :lol::lol::lol:


    Do you know how many of those tickets were given away?
    And do you know how cheap them motha****as was?
     
  9. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    How about not picking a bias time..how about just there common opponents...:deal
     
  10. Fighting Pride

    Fighting Pride Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What kind of bull**** thread is this?

    Yeah Mayweather's offer is not so bad, it's horrible.

    Mayweather offered Pacquiao 0% of the PPV and fight revenue, for a fight expected to break PPV and fight revenue records! Can you guys get your head over that? Yet Top Ranks offer to Floyd of 50M gauranteed and 45-45 share of the PPV and fight revenue, +10% for the winner is bad?

    The reason the fight is expected to break records is because Mayweather is fighting Pacquiao/Pacquiao is fighting Mayweather. They each bring half of the interest in this fight. None will be able to get close to what they'll do fighting anyone else. And given the closeness of their PPV numbers and generated revenue the past few years going head to head, it's as clear a case of 50-50 as you're gonna get.

    It's certainly not happening for 0% of the PPV and fight revenue, you guys think Pacquiao is stupid, he's not that stupid. 40M doesn't get anywhere near the amount to cover or compensate Pac for the money he'd be forfeiting in the possibility the fight does 3, 4 or even 5 million buys. Fans need to stop hugging nuts and look at this objectively and with logic.
     
  11. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    The fight does 3 million buys..that is what is projected...assuming Floyd and Manny split $105,000,000...Manny would end up with $15,000,000 more his highest payday of $25,000,000 and Floyd would end up with $15,000,000 more his highest payday of $50,000,000.

    Fair deal is Manny taking his $40,000,000 and leaving at the most $65,000,000 to Floyd.
     
  12. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Also, they don't generate the same PPV #'s and they mos def do not generate the same revenue.
     
  13. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Pac has never generated more than $73,000,000 in revenue for a fight. Floyd generated $135,800,700 for Oscar and $94,000,000 for his fight with Cotto. Floyd also generated $78,400,000 with Ortiz who had never been on a PPV and $78,000,000 for Mosley.
     
  14. Ripple633

    Ripple633 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know too much about the legal system, but can't Floyd Mayweather shorten his jail sentence, let's say to 30 days?
     
  15. Fighting Pride

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    Sure, and then it does 4m buys, 5m buys and Floyd doubles and triples Manny's 40M. Fight will never happen without Pac's side getting a % of the PPV. If FLoyd can give Cotto a reported 65-35 split on the revenue, he can let Pac take 50-50.

    If the fight does 3M buys there'd be more than $105M to split between the camps. If they price it $70 it would generate over $200M with close to 3M buys. The cable company will take their cut but it won't be the usual 45% if they want it to happen. (How does Floyd take 50M and Cotto a reported 30M from a fight that generated $106M if the cable supplier is taking 45%?).